posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:24 PM
First of all the US military is not going to be called upon to engage or even get involved in civil disorder until it becomes so widespread and
violent that there will be no doubt in their minds that the “American Citizens” they are asked to round-up, control or engage are acting in such
an unlawful manner that they are a clear and present danger to the stability of the nation.
The military will not be unleashed on a generally lawful protest or demonstration. TPTB will make sure that the situation is completely out of hand
so that the Soldiers (or Marines, Sailors, whatever…) will have no doubt that they are acting in the best interest of the nation. This is
imperative for the success of such a maneuver.
The meme is easy to manipulate…if they control the media as is the case with the current administration.
I am no longer on active duty – I am retired. I did always say I would never do such a thing but honestly, I am glad I was never placed in a
position to have to choose.
The economic reality is that most Soldiers/Officers are just people who need to feed, clothe, house and provide for their families and given the
choice to round up some strangers; even American strangers, or risk losing your pay and benefits and therefore your families’ security - most would
readily do so.
Especially, since this potential scenario will likely be coupled with a collapse of the economy or during a suspension of federal pay or a long term
government shut down I think you'd see more Soldiers willing to follow orders just to ensure that their families were being taken care of.
With rampant inflation and a shortage of food, gas and other essentials the government would make promises to pay their salaries at least in part or
as a minimum give food vouchers to Soldiers’ families or something to keep them placated.
However, if for some reason the Soldiers were to stop getting paid completely or have reason to worry about the care and safety of their own families
we might see desertion and a lack of desire to comply with their orders. Because at that point they have less to lose and more to gain by their
disobedience (rushing to the aid of their loved ones). This is the very reason the military would try very hard to keep the Soldier’s paid or at
least have their families issued vouchers for housing and food and living securely on their bases. A means of control.
Even with a suspension military pay or shut down of their vouchers or a breach of security or safety on a base from which the Soldiers deployed, it
would take a long time to register through the ranks as the military can control access to information very easily.
As a point of reference… Why do you think some Polish Jews would readily round up other Jews during the Holocaust?
it’s because, they were getting food/shelter and either safety for themselves and/or their family to do so. The family unit and its preservation is
a more pervading human motivation than even self preservation.
At this point any concept of community, country, and liberty or freedom for all is a neat but not very practical for most people as a point of
motivation. This drive also supersedes (for almost anyone) the fulfillment of any oaths to countries or for some (as stated above) even breaking
Most people would kill, maim, starve and torture a stranger – even a friend to save their children or family.
I know I would, no questions asked. If someone gave me a choice shoot my wife or my daughter I’d drop the old lady in a second without a thought
– as she would me. I would not blame her a bit.
IMO as a career Special Forces Officer; as long as the government would keep paying/feeding the military most would do as they are told with minor
acts of resistance being common, i.e. say feigning the lack of ability to track or find certain people, ignoring small thefts of food and such… If
the situation drags on for a long time we’d see deserters. Especially, like I said if these Soldiers had reason to fear for the well being of their
Regarding the locality and use of troops from certain region.. Even the military is not so stupid as to expect Soldiers to round up their own family
members and unit commanders would be required to identify and transfer any individual Soldiers/Officers from the US region or city to which they were
being be deployed to avoid any undue potential for disobedience for that reason. So you won’t see (m)any instances of anything like that.
As a retiree, my personal threshold for active resistance is the continuation of my benefits. If they should cease; I won't have much to lose by
taking up arms and protecting what is mine or taking what I need. Until that threshold is reached I will just keep to myself and mind my own property
and investments. I don’t intend to rock the boat until it is in my best interest to do so. Desperate times and all that.