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Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by johngrissom
But do you believe in Jesus? what was your church before you left?.
2th
It is unfortunate that you cannot see both sides but at least I can't admit there is no proof there is a God. But, you cannot admit there may be. Im pretty sure that is the definition to faith though.
Originally posted by johngrissom
reply to post by smithjustinb
Okay...so you think you are better? No one is wrong in Atheism vs God because of the very fact there is no proof to support either side. There is a few that prove stories in the Bible to be true but not God. But, I love how you claim me to be wrong for me. Isn't that selfish and ignorant or maybe you are being sarcastic?edit on 19-11-2012 by johngrissom because: (no reason given)edit on 19-11-2012 by johngrissom because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OccamAssassin
It is unfortunate that you cannot see both sides but at least I can't admit there is no proof there is a God. But, you cannot admit there may be. Im pretty sure that is the definition to faith though.
Really?
Can you show me where I stated anything of the sort?
Can you show me anywhere that I have stated that I am an atheist?
When you ASSUME you make an ASS of U and ME.
Does one need to be associated with a religion to be able to discern right from wrong? Does considering one-self as being of a religious denomination automatically instil an ability to discern right from wrong? When you say good natured.....Do you mean the kind of "good nature" catholic priests have been showing their alter boys? Religion is the bane of society as it absolves scumbags from taking responsibility for their own actions. Lie, cheat, steal, kill, rape, etc.......it does not matter when you can just go to confessional and absolve yourself. Religion has a lot to answer for.
Nope, just you and the brigand of Zionists that have been camping here over the last week.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by johngrissom
Then sorry you still follow a man made religion...Jesus was written about by man not god.
I have read the Bible and I think people have got Jesus wrong. He did not agree with man made religion but history and man have made him into a religion.
Jesus would weep.
Watch a film called The man from earth...explains it better than I.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by johngrissom
reply to post by smithjustinb
Okay...so you think you are better? No one is wrong in Atheism vs God because of the very fact there is no proof to support either side. There is a few that prove stories in the Bible to be true but not God. But, I love how you claim me to be wrong for me. Isn't that selfish and ignorant or maybe you are being sarcastic?edit on 19-11-2012 by johngrissom because: (no reason given)edit on 19-11-2012 by johngrissom because: (no reason given)
But we aren't having a discussion about "Atheism and God". The topic, As was outlined in the OP is Atheism vs religion. 2 different things.
Stars are also a good indication of which side in an ATS debate is right. How many stars u got?
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by johngrissom
No you miss the point read rollpauls post...
Another question how old are you?
Originally posted by johngrissom
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by johngrissom
Like I said belief in a god is not wrong but Religion is, different thing.
I will say it slowly ...man made Religion, not God so religion is man made, If you follow a religion you are not following god you are following a man made interpretation of what man thinks is god.
Are you serious, are you freaking serious?
Definition to religion: The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
Im pretty sure religion, God, and belief are all in this definition but I will go with it.
So, there is no God because all religions are man made? So, anyone who believe in a God is wrong. Since the definition clearly states that. Don't you dare retract that statement either.
Originally posted by winofiend
reply to post by johngrissom
A child raised in a world where there is no mention of god, will not suddenly believe in god.
A child raised in a household that preaches god and spews hate about those who do not believe in god, will log onto the internet and post a thread asking why it's all a little bit silly, and then get snarky when people reply to him with anything but praise.
religion.. what is it good for, absolutely nothing... Bam!
Originally posted by OccamAssassin
reply to post by johngrissom
I'm starting to think that you have no idea how to discern between atheism, gnosticism, the concept of a creator and religion.
You might want to check the definitions and try to comprehend the differences between each as I am sure it will assist you greatly in understanding other peoples posts in this thread.
At the very least, you should look a lot less of a douche with a little knowledge under your belt.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by johngrissom
I give up...no point trying to discuss something when you have such a closed mind, You made this thread thinking you know the answer already but when someone suggests something different from your own views you go all douche like.
Iam out.