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Originally posted by AndyMayhew
In the UK, Income tax was introduced to pay for the Napoleonic war with France. We're still paying it.
Doesn't mean that the Napoleonic war was fake though
Originally posted by Philippines
Originally posted by Kr0nZ
Originally posted by magma
There is a conspiracy here. I believe it is all about getting revenue from taxes that are supposed to assist in this so called global warming.
Agreed, why else would the World Bank, of all people, come out with this statement. If they truly believed in a global warming crisis you would think they would fund organisations that deal with this issue specifically, and have them come out with the statement, but most of those groups will just see through these lies. I think this is just a money grab to tax the carbon credits.
Bankers are truly EXTRAORDINARY people. I mean, they can make money out of thin air, demand austerity measures from countries that cannot pay their debts to the banker brothers, and are always there to give an opinion on world policy issues.
What's even more spectacular about these bankers is that they are also climatologists on the side, and are there to help inform the world of their latest meteorological discovery: 4c warming unless immediate action is taken.
I'm sure these bankers are also so amazing that they even have created an action plan in their spare time in case this warming does come to fruition.
Originally posted by BrainGarden
And when did the 'World Bank' become the voice of it ?
Then again, there is a lot of money in it.
Originally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to post by PatrickGarrow17
First just to get this out there, AGW( anthropogenic global warming( Man made global warming)) is a lie, period. We have no idea the earths actual natural ambient temp, it has been much hotter and colder many times, we are simply at present in "the perfect temp" for our race, which the universe cares naught about.
Also the sun itself is what warms and cools us, at it pleasure, and at its want, not ours. Comparing co2 and global warming, is the same as saying the reason you got burned was that you were standing in a gas cloud that trapped to much heat, instead of acknowledging the fact your right next to a very large fire.
OK back to the topic I wanted to further discuss with you.
There are not any, I repeat ANY, viable replacements for petroleum. All "green" technologies are gimicks, pipe dreams, fictional constructs, at present.
If we had a single one that is even within 1/2 the efficiency of fossil fuels, we would already be using them.
Solar- not even close, they pay themselves off in around 40 years depending on the model, yet only last for around 10 to 15, so they are mone pits, not viable solutions at present.
Wind- LOL, OMG ROFL BWAHAHAHAHAHA.....they are extremely expensive to build, maintain, and they arent even fully useful all the time, as the wind does as it wants, not as we will it. Oh and they have killed more birds than thanksgiving dinner.
Hydroelectric- now we are talking.....whats that ....oh ya, we already dammed everthing worth damming, and the "greenies" want them all removed, because they harm the native species, as the waters are extremely cold at the outputs, as it comes from hundreds of feet below the reach of the suns warming rays, thus killing off man native species that cant survive in the frigid waters for miles downstream, oh and the salmon, but salmon ladders have done alot to overcome this.
Atomic- well it is ok, if you dont mind the .gov having to spend an arm and a leg to build it, then subsidies it, all the while praying our triple redundant "fail safe" systems dont fail....whats that? Oh ya, doo doo occurs, and they do somtimes, causing widespread, and very long lasting problems,
Bio fuels- ethanol, AKA white lightning, moon shine, grain liquor. It takes more energy to make than can be extracted from it, some estimates put it at almost 2 gallons of gasoline worth of energy, for 1 gallon of ethanol produced. Not of course mentioning the real kicker, every bushel of corn used for bio fuels is aother not for sale on the market, driving everyday food prices through the roof. Oh and it isnt even any better on the environment.
So I mean, I am quite learned on this subject, please enlighten me as to what technologies your refering to that arent "bunk science" or cost prohibitive. I will be all ears, and very happy to learn, though I wont be holding my breath.
But the tide was turning with Roger Revelle. He was forced out at Harvard at 65 and returned to California and a semi retirement position at UCSD. There he had time to rethink Carbon Dioxide and the greenhouse effect. The man who had inspired Al Gore and given the UN the basic research it needed to launch its Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was having second thoughts. In 1988 he wrote two cautionary letters to members of Congress. He wrote, "My own personal belief is that we should wait another 10 or 20 years to really be convinced that the greenhouse effect is going to be important for human beings, in both positive and negative ways." He added, "…we should be careful not to arouse too much alarm until the rate and amount of warming becomes clearer." And in 1991 Revelle teamed up with Chauncey Starr, founding director of the Electric Power Research Institute and Fred Singer, the first director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Service, to write an article for Cosmos magazine. They urged more research and begged scientists and governments not to move too fast to curb greenhouse CO2 emissions because the true impact of carbon dioxide was not at all certain, and curbing the use of fossil fuels could have a huge, negative impact on the economy, jobs, and our standard of living. Considerable controversy still surrounds the authorship of this article. However, I have discussed this collaboration with Dr. Singer and he assures me that Revelle was considerably more certain than he was at the time that carbon dioxide was not a problem. Did Roger Revelle attend the summer enclave at the Bohemian Grove in Northern California in 1990 while working on that article? Did he deliver a lakeside speech there to the assembled movers and shakers from Washington and Wall Street in which he apologized for sending the UN IPCC and Al Gore on this wild goose chase about global warming? Did he say that the key scientific conjecture of his lifetime had turned out wrong? The answer to those questions is, "Apparently.” People who were there have told me about that afternoon, but I have not located a transcript or a recording. People continue to share their memories with me on an informal basis. More evidence may be forthcoming.
Originally posted by magma
World Bank fears a 4C warming this century unless immediate action taken
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THE World Bank has warned that global temperatures could rise by four degrees this century without immediate action, with potentially devastating consequences for coastal cities and the poor.
Issuing a call for action, the World Bank tied the future wealth of the planet - and especially developing regions - to immediate efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions from sources such as energy production.
"The time is very, very short. The world has to tackle the problem of climate change more aggressively," World Bank President Jim Yong Kim said on a conference call on Sunday as he launched a r
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Originally posted by magma
Ok so I am not a believer in this so called global warming. I have been watching the news for a long time and today here we have a headline report from the World Bank saying that there is a likely hood of +4degrees rise in global temperatures. Of course this will have a signifcant impact on the environment and one would assume drastic effects on the weather and heavily populated areas along the worlds coastlines.
However:
There is a conspiracy here. I believe it is all about getting revenue from taxes that are supposed to assist in this so called global warming.
Guess who is the instigator? Rothchilds. A couple of links for further reading attached below.
The timing of the report is interesting I believe as we end out 2012 and start on a new year with a re-elected president.
I have spoken with a lot of old people about the weather and all they say is that is is part of a pattern and global warming does not exsist.
So the conspiracy is to fleece everyone of their money in the name of " Global Warming "
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"I have spoken with a lot of old people about the weather and all they say is that is is part of a pattern and global warming does not exsist."
Some of you older folk will remember the extreme storm years of 1968 and 1979 on the US's West Coast. Roads and freeways inpassable..........in So Cal no less.
I agree, people's memories are short as far as the weather catastrophe's go, remember 'Hugo' off of North Carolina, it came inland more than 120 miles. There have been 50's and 60's, 70's and 80's with really terrific weather patterns.