World Bank fears a 4C warming this century unless immediate action taken

World Bank fears a 4C warming this century unless immediate action taken

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THE World Bank has warned that global temperatures could rise by four degrees this century without immediate action, with potentially devastating consequences for coastal cities and the poor.
Issuing a call for action, the World Bank tied the future wealth of the planet - and especially developing regions - to immediate efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions from sources such as energy production.
"The time is very, very short. The world has to tackle the problem of climate change more aggressively," World Bank President Jim Yong Kim said on a conference call on Sunday as he launched a r

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Ok so I am not a believer in this so called global warming. I have been watching the news for a long time and today here we have a headline report from the World Bank saying that there is a likely hood of +4degrees rise in global temperatures. Of course this will have a signifcant impact on the environment and one would assume drastic effects on the weather and heavily populated areas along the worlds coastlines.

However:

There is a conspiracy here. I believe it is all about getting revenue from taxes that are supposed to assist in this so called global warming.

Guess who is the instigator? Rothchilds. A couple of links for further reading attached below.

The timing of the report is interesting I believe as we end out 2012 and start on a new year with a re-elected president.

I have spoken with a lot of old people about the weather and all they say is that is is part of a pattern and global warming does not exsist.

So the conspiracy is to fleece everyone of their money in the name of " Global Warming "



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Originally posted by magma
There is a conspiracy here. I believe it is all about getting revenue from taxes that are supposed to assist in this so called global warming.

Agreed, why else would the World Bank, of all people, come out with this statement. If they truly believed in a global warming crisis you would think they would fund organisations that deal with this issue specifically, and have them come out with the statement, but most of those groups will just see through these lies. I think this is just a money grab to tax the carbon credits.

Global warming is real. We've been in a warming stage ever since the Ice Age. Denying that, is denying just about all of archaeological history.

Whether or not man can have any impact on it though, is where the debate arises.

how long ago was the ice-age of this rock we dwell on anyways
is it within mans realm to control the ambient temp of this planet like he tries with everything else
if the planet was cooling...could we divert this too?

Originally posted by Kr0nZ

Originally posted by magma
There is a conspiracy here. I believe it is all about getting revenue from taxes that are supposed to assist in this so called global warming.

Agreed, why else would the World Bank, of all people, come out with this statement. If they truly believed in a global warming crisis you would think they would fund organisations that deal with this issue specifically, and have them come out with the statement, but most of those groups will just see through these lies. I think this is just a money grab to tax the carbon credits.

Bankers are truly EXTRAORDINARY people. I mean, they can make money out of thin air, demand austerity measures from countries that cannot pay their debts to the banker brothers, and are always there to give an opinion on world policy issues.

What's even more spectacular about these bankers is that they are also climatologists on the side, and are there to help inform the world of their latest meteorological discovery: 4c warming unless immediate action is taken.

I'm sure these bankers are also so amazing that they even have created an action plan in their spare time in case this warming does come to fruition.

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What a conspiracy. The entire political, scientific, and journalist world are collaborating to manufacture the idea that industrial pollutants are having a negative effect on the environment, namely global temperature.

The flood that Hurricane Sandy sent over lower Manhattan and other parts of the region on Monday (Oct. 29) was one for the record books; it was the largest storm surge in New York City's history. But as unusual as this storm was, it may have offered a hint of the future in a warming world.

livescience.org

Driven by a warmer-than-average June, the hottest ever July, and a warmer-than-average August, the summer of 2012 will go down in the history books as the third-warmest summer on record for the lower 48 states, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) announced Monday. The nation’s second-warmest summer occurred just last year, and the only other summer that was warmer than the past two occurred during the Dust Bowl era of 1936. This summer was just two tenths of a degree cooler than the summer of 1936.

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Two of the biggest storms in NYC history in 2011-12 (Irene and Sandy), two of the hottest summers in Americas history in the last two years.

What would be your strategy? Deregulate everything, let capitalism take it's course as industrialism spreads around the world and pollution increases, then juts hope it was all a massive conspiracy?


I say we need a significant shift to renewable energy and we need it now.

Well WHO has the money for the solutions?

World banks probably do, but this won't be optimal for their profits so don't plan on it.

I also wondered why the World Bank was putting out this report. I took a look at the source article and saw that the quotes were from the World Bank President. Towards the end of the article is this paragraph:

Kim, a physician and former president of Dartmouth College who was tapped for the World Bank by US President Barack Obama, said that 97 per cent of scientists agreed that human activity was causing climate change.

Now it begins to make more sense.

Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
I say we need a significant shift to renewable energy and we need it now.

Yes we do, but who are the ones making this move impossible?
World banking, corporations and especially big oil.

They have the money for the solutions and they would still be crazy rich after dealing with this problem that they are mostly to blame with in the first place.

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Well, if the population were really driven to stop using dirty energy change would happen pretty quickly. A big reason these companies have all this power is because people give it to them through consumption patters. The cycle is perpetuated by a controlled media and advertising of course, making it difficult for a large number to realize the problem and advocate change.

But, strides are really being made. The demand for renewable energies is growing and a lot of metro areas are putting together plans with benchmarks for energy use and emissions. As usual, policies are doing just enough to prevent mass outrage. No sense of urgency to clean anything up, because the lawmakers aren't struggling and don't have as much to lose in disaster or gain in more fair world.

I don't like the suggestion that people are helpless to the will of banks, government, oil companies etc. If a person feels strongly about a change that needs to be made, and they do nothing about it, then they are a part of the problem. And right now we live in a society where a ton of people are eager to talk and prove how smart they are, but unwilling to get out on the front lines and push for real reform from the bottom up. I'm pretty optimistic that at some point we'll see mass activism with the right message, though.

Originally posted by theMediator

Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
I say we need a significant shift to renewable energy and we need it now.

Yes we do, but who are the ones making this move impossible?
World banking, corporations and especially big oil.

They have the money for the solutions and they would still be crazy rich after dealing with this problem that they are mostly to blame with in the first place.

Hence the conspiracy. It is fixable but there is too much money to be made, so it won't be fixed unless the money is redirected. So it goes all the way to the top. The World Bank.

Originally posted by charles1952
I also wondered why the World Bank was putting out this report. I took a look at the source article and saw that the quotes were from the World Bank President. Towards the end of the article is this paragraph:

Kim, a physician and former president of Dartmouth College who was tapped for the World Bank by US President Barack Obama, said that 97 per cent of scientists agreed that human activity was causing climate change.

Now it begins to make more sense.

Yeah, wonder where the 97% came from??

Since 1998, more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” Included are atmospheric physicists, botanists, geologists, oceanographers, and meteorologists.

So where did that famous “consensus” claim that “98% of all scientists believe in global warming” come from? It originated from an endlessly reported 2009 American Geophysical Union (AGU) survey consisting of an intentionally brief two-minute, two question online survey sent to 10,257 earth scientists by two researchers at the University of Illinois. Of the about 3.000 who responded, 82% answered “yes” to the second question, which like the first, most people I know would also have agreed with.

Then of those, only a small subset, just 77 who had been successful in getting more than half of their papers recently accepted by peer-reviewed climate science journals, were considered in their survey statistic. That “98% all scientists” referred to a laughably puny number of 75 of those 77 who answered “yes”.

www.forbes.com...


Pretty interesting how they are continuously misleading the people and distorting the facts all for their agenda.

No one disputes "climate change"....
But there are many who disagree with global warming.....
And many believe that was "created" for the collection of tax revenues.....

Bottom line, it's all about the money $$$$

The world bank is simply an arm of the rulling capitalist class, and the rulling capitalist class could not give two flying bird turds about global warming, nuclear pollution or industrial waste. These people are evil as hell and should be locked up in some mental hospital.

Replace capitalism with socialism and all of a sudden most problems are gone. WOW!

And what about haarp? Pretty sure something wrong with that too, but it is hard to get info on it.

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Pretty interesting how they are continuously misleading the people and distorting the facts all for their agenda.

With proof of this occuring and the misrepresentaion of the figures, does not leave a warm fuzzy feeling does it.

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First just to get this out there, AGW( anthropogenic global warming( Man made global warming)) is a lie, period. We have no idea the earths actual natural ambient temp, it has been much hotter and colder many times, we are simply at present in "the perfect temp" for our race, which the universe cares naught about.

Also the sun itself is what warms and cools us, at it pleasure, and at its want, not ours. Comparing co2 and global warming, is the same as saying the reason you got burned was that you were standing in a gas cloud that trapped to much heat, instead of acknowledging the fact your right next to a very large fire.

OK back to the topic I wanted to further discuss with you.

There are not any, I repeat ANY, viable replacements for petroleum. All "green" technologies are gimicks, pipe dreams, fictional constructs, at present.

If we had a single one that is even within 1/2 the efficiency of fossil fuels, we would already be using them.

Solar- not even close, they pay themselves off in around 40 years depending on the model, yet only last for around 10 to 15, so they are mone pits, not viable solutions at present.

Wind- LOL, OMG ROFL BWAHAHAHAHAHA.....they are extremely expensive to build, maintain, and they arent even fully useful all the time, as the wind does as it wants, not as we will it. Oh and they have killed more birds than thanksgiving dinner.

Hydroelectric- now we are talking.....whats that ....oh ya, we already dammed everthing worth damming, and the "greenies" want them all removed, because they harm the native species, as the waters are extremely cold at the outputs, as it comes from hundreds of feet below the reach of the suns warming rays, thus killing off man native species that cant survive in the frigid waters for miles downstream, oh and the salmon, but salmon ladders have done alot to overcome this.

Atomic- well it is ok, if you dont mind the .gov having to spend an arm and a leg to build it, then subsidies it, all the while praying our triple redundant "fail safe" systems dont fail....whats that? Oh ya, doo doo occurs, and they do somtimes, causing widespread, and very long lasting problems,

Bio fuels- ethanol, AKA white lightning, moon shine, grain liquor. It takes more energy to make than can be extracted from it, some estimates put it at almost 2 gallons of gasoline worth of energy, for 1 gallon of ethanol produced. Not of course mentioning the real kicker, every bushel of corn used for bio fuels is aother not for sale on the market, driving everyday food prices through the roof. Oh and it isnt even any better on the environment.

So I mean, I am quite learned on this subject, please enlighten me as to what technologies your refering to that arent "bunk science" or cost prohibitive. I will be all ears, and very happy to learn, though I wont be holding my breath.

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I think the world bank is most afraid of people getting smart and not buying their bull%$^ lies anymore.

Maybe an armed populace, also.

Originally posted by theMediator
Well WHO has the money for the solutions?

World banks probably do, but this won't be optimal for their profits so don't plan on it.

Well, right now the US, Russia, and China are resisting carbon taxation.

But if it ever goes through, we will all be paying for it through the use of fuel/natural gas.

So, indirectly, the taxpayers would be paying for it.
Because if they charge the Petroleum companies the tax, they will in turn add that fee to the price of gas that the consumers will have to pay, I would assume.

IMO, if the World Bank is speaking out about it, it can only lead to the fact that they are planning on making more money globally.

Originally posted by magma
reply to post by snarky412

 

Pretty interesting how they are continuously misleading the people and distorting the facts all for their agenda.

With proof of this occuring and the misrepresentaion of the figures, does not leave a warm fuzzy feeling does it.

And this thread by PuterMan entitled 1880 IS getting colder!, shows clearly that the numbers are being manipulated.

Prior years records (historical data) is being changed to make it appear as though it was cooler in the past ad that the more recent past is warming more than is actually occurring.

The agenda, and making $$$ from it, is what matters not truth or care for the environment.

Originally posted by Happy1
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I think the world bank is most afraid of people getting smart and not buying their bull%$^ lies anymore.

Maybe an armed populace, also.

Who cares what they are afraid of?

I am afraid we will not have much of a planet the next 50 years with so much war and pollution.

Global warming, if real, could be caused by a multitude of reasons such as a swelling sun, haarp, greenhouse gases. We don't need more taxes though, since most of our tax revenue goes to pay the debt.

I also find it ironic that everyone is allowing jobs to go to asia and the asian governments bend forwards to make them happy. Tarrif free trading aka free trade is bad for unions and bad for everyone. Cheap labor, lax enviromental laws.