Originally posted by Hefficide
We need industry to take the lead in bringing back quality jobs to our shores. Yes, they might pay a premium here, as compared to the third world, for
labor - but the benefits of that expense are worth it. These mega corporations became mega corporations due to their American labor force - not to the
third world operations they now utilize.
Greed has to be mitigated to a degree if we are to survive as a nation and as a people.
Once that happens? Then social services will be much less in demand and we can move towards altering them down to a rational level as well.
Heff, theres much to agree on above, its luadable and sensible to connect a return of industrial and manufacturing jobs with decreases in federal
assistance and social programs. Makes sense.
Its the how do we get there part thats the biggest issue for me as I see the current administration doing what I consider the exact opposite of what
must be done to promote those jobs coming back.
1. Taxing corporations more sounds good to the poor and undereducated from a purely envious point of view promoted by class separation - its an easy
target. The effect is to drive corporations offshore where better tax climates exist. Whats hardly ever said by those promoting higher taxation is
the fact that this country already has one of if not the highest rates in the world.
2. Taxing individuals at higher rates does change behavior, just not in the way some wish which is to remain productive little tax slaves for the
downtroddens needs, they will produce less, offshore more and tax dodge to every loophole found - its legal and its human nature when its felt
confiscatory. Always remember no matter how taxes have been juggled in the past at rates as high as 70% the government on average only took in 17.5%
GDP. The other point on personal taxation is to look at migration of corporations and individuals to states having low or no income taxes, while
states with high rates see out-migration - are these people greedy? selfish? or just trying to do the best they can within a rigged system? With this
administations policies I predict this will become much more prevalent on an international scale rather than just a state to state migration of
talent, productivity and investment.
3. Last month over 6000 new federal regulations were published into law - in a month! A few may be worthy, many protect or entrench certain lobbying
groups and those they represent, most are absolute garbage. All serve to make it harder and harder to do business in this country and grow jobs.
4. Social policy belonging in the political spectrum blanketed upon the workplace sounds good on paper but in practice has stymied the promotion and
merit of entire classes of workers making what I call the 'slothful" class of workers who do just enough to get by and scream bloody murder to HR if
challenged on work habits and attitude in any shape, form or manner. I too was brought up and worked when all were expected and believed to be able to
get ahead via hard work and agree its not like that anymore, we disagree on reason why. Bad actors should be socially ostracised and decredited in the
marketplace, tying businesses hand behind their backs is not going to make jobs, now the administration is floating idea of fines for businesses
thought to have discriminatory policy through advertising or other percieved actions - business will run from the absolute uncertainty of a legal
climate like this.
5. Unions elected this administration via lots of money and lots of votes. Hostess was invested in by a large Obama supporter and a Dem Senator was
involved so claims of conservative union busting no longer apply. Wages do need to be livable in this country I agree - just not to the extent of
killing the company. You spoke of working in a cooperative enviroment where you were rewarded for you're hard work and I'm assuming the companies
involved had an active interested employee in return, now its dog eat dog, Employees are slugs who for the most part spend more time figuring out how
to scam management rater than how to do a better job. I say this not because its an esoteric thought but its coming from observing with my own eyes.
The truly productive worker is carring the weight of many non-productive workers whom management can do nothing about for fear of appearing
discrimantory. The productive worker loses faith in the company and has work ethic eroded by this situation. Taken on a national basis this is a huge
6. You claim Reagonomics did it, I see repeal of final Glass-Steagall act provisions during Clinton era as having played a big huge part which I
believe was the genesis of the dot com crash and the banking scandels of 2005, why no arests, no perp walks or any other meaningful convictions for
those you label greedy and part of the problem, I would have been for shutdown, liquidation and restructuring. Alas.