You need God not preps

Originally posted by Expat888
pray in one hand ... # in the other see which fills up first.. when tshtf knowledge.. skill.. experience.. proper mindset and preparation will get one further than some imaginary character..... theres indigineous peoples around the world who live without modern conveniences and without the western god and they survive / live quite well

edit on 18/11/12 by Expat888 because: minor correction... too early need coffee...

A thought came to mind. If God read your post I'm sure his feelings would be hurt. Kind of a weird thought, but interesting.

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by SpearMint
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

You're more brainwashed than most cult members.

My message is to love others and live by virtue and truth. If you want to justify your name calling, simply list examples and provide some context of your own. Empty words that seek to take is a sign your are empty yourself. I am trying to show you how to be full. When you are full, you will not need to fill yourself by bias, condescension and anger (Hatred).

I wasn't name calling, I was making an observation. I wish you could see yourself in the view of someone that lives in reality, you would see what I mean.

Really. You are speaking these words about reality on ATS, the poster child of people who mistrust reality? I would venture a guess that my words here, as reflected from the Bible, are the only answers any of us have regarding the quantum weirdness we see behind reality. Do the UFO enthusiasts have answers that explain the divisions in society? Do the Crop Circle people, secret society people, chemtrail people, spiritualists, metaphysicians, pagans, satanists or others have answers to the nature of what we experience here?

No. The only answers are what we gain from living life by giving and receiving, with no taking. Taking makes us a thief.

Since we all take, we are all thieves. We have a solution and we have the cause. We see the point of it all by light of the one that Created it in the first place. There is deep and profound purpose in the mystery and when you see it, your eyes are opened and your spirit is healed.

That's the truth of this entire website. Ignorance can only be denied by reducing to the root. That single sentence between two paragraphs above is it. Love others and love God. The rest is simply commentary as the clock ticks. The person with faith sees it and the person how disbelieves is still blinded. The choice is always ours to make, yet God must prepare you.

John 6

64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”

66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve.

68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

70 Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!”

Now if you replaced god with instinct I would agree .

Blah, blah, blah, God, blah, blah.

You really think god gives a rats whether you live, die, surrender or fight? No chance. People have been doing all of those things for a very long time without any divine intervention. Get out of debt, grow a garden, grow a backbone and get on with it.

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by SpearMint
reply to post by EnochWasRight

 

You're more brainwashed than most cult members.

My message is to love others and live by virtue and truth. If you want to justify your name calling, simply list examples and provide some context of your own. Empty words that seek to take is a sign your are empty yourself. I am trying to show you how to be full. When you are full, you will not need to fill yourself by bias, condescension and anger (Hatred).

I wasn't name calling, I was making an observation. I wish you could see yourself in the view of someone that lives in reality, you would see what I mean.

Really. You are speaking these words about reality on ATS, the poster child of people who mistrust reality? I would venture a guess that my words here, as reflected from the Bible, are the only answers any of us have regarding the quantum weirdness we see behind reality. Do the UFO enthusiasts have answers that explain the divisions in society? Do the Crop Circle people, secret society people, chemtrail people, spiritualists, metaphysicians, pagans, satanists or others have answers to the nature of what we experience here?

No. The only answers are what we gain from living life by giving and receiving, with no taking. Taking makes us a thief.

Since we all take, we are all thieves. We have a solution and we have the cause. We see the point of it all by light of the one that Created it in the first place. There is deep and profound purpose in the mystery and when you see it, your eyes are opened and your spirit is healed.

That's the truth of this entire website. Ignorance can only be denied by reducing to the root. That single sentence between two paragraphs above is it. Love others and love God. The rest is simply commentary as the clock ticks. The person with faith sees it and the person how disbelieves is still blinded. The choice is always ours to make, yet God must prepare you.

John 6

64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”

66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve.

68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

70 Then Jesus replied, “Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!”

edit on 18-11-2012 by EnochWasRight because: (no reason given)

Quoting crap from the Bible is meaningless, I'm not brainwashed. As for the rest, what you're saying is largely irrelevant, the Bible doesn't have answers to anything, you believe it does, you want it to, so in your mind it does. It's like me quoting lines from any Harry Potter book and claiming it's not fiction, the only difference is we know who wrote it.

ATS does not mistrust reality, if anything ATS is in search of reality. Reality it's what's real, sometimes a veil is put over that and people mistake that veil for reality. That is very relevant to you.

When the sh!t hits the fan, I become the creator out of necessity.

Originally posted by clarkness
So basically what is being said that everything good in one's life comes from God, but wouldn't that make everything bad that happens in life comes from God? If he already knows everything and creates everything, then he knows that I will go to hell and the fact that he would know that he created me with my fate being that I will be going to hell, what choice is there for me?

Why is that a Christian can say that God will provide for them and protect them, then why does he indiscriminately kills any and all with the destruction from natural disasters, wars, famine, etc. etc. etc....?

The moment we stop waiting around for some god to save us and start taking responsibility as a race of human beings, the faster we can actually build a society without a lot of the bad things in life.

No pun intended, but, amen brother!

LOL @ this thread

God is all you need!

Like when you see a starving nation in Africa, don't send them money. Send them a bible.
When you see a homeless person on the street, don't give them a coffee and a sandwich. Give them a crucifix.
If you see someone being mugged, don't intervene or call the police. Pray for them.

God is all you need as proven by my observations above.



All he needs is GOD and.. wait, I mean his DOG.. damn it I knew I had it wrong...

Why would someone with such faith in God be posting on here?
Especially in the survival forum.
He has all your answers,pray to him instead of posting on here cause you might make him angry because you are ignoring him.

~Peace,
K

Originally posted by pellian
I hate to sound like a religious person but the universal fact is that you need to get close with the Maker if you want any real chance of survival. He alone decides where you will be at the time TSHTF. For all you know you could be 1000 miles away from your stockpile and never reach it. What if you panic and you can't find your bug out bag. So many what if's and you cannot possible plan contingency for all of them. Even if you carry your bug out bag with you at all times what if you leave it in the the burger king bathroom? You have no idea what is coming down the river at all. What if that there is no big tragedy which you can use your skills and materials. and nothing happens for decades until the day God forbid you die. You will have wasted your life on nothingness. My suggestion is for a small prep bag and give the rest to charity. Your heart tells you that this is true.

What you call God in this situation, I call common sense and critical thinking.

The religious lifestyle show hosted by televangelist Pat Robertson on Monday suggested that Christians in Florida had convinced God to move soon-to-be Hurricane Isaac away from Tampa, Florida to protect Republicans

"We have had lots and lots of people praying around the clock that it would move," Rev. Jesten Peters explained. "And if you watch from the very beginning where they were saying it was coming up and now where they're saying it's going, then it's really moved a lot for us, and we appreciate God doing that and moving it for us."

At the time, Robertson suggested that then-Supreme Court nominee John Roberts' unwillingness to overturn abortion rights caused the storm.

I'm not sure who I'm more embarassed for...

God moved hurricaine to protect republicans

reply to post by pellian


God will take care of everything and scripts everything is a cop out for lazy people to do nothing! If you believe in god then he gave you a brain with logic and reason to figure things out use it. You think he wants to hang out with a bunch of do nothing lazy couch potatoes who expect him to do everything for them? What parent wants to have to do everything for their child forever? none! They want them to grow up and be self sufficient. He put you here to learn how to figure things out and take care of yourself.

Ever heard of the phrase "God helps those who help themselves"? It really is up to you God is not going to magically float everything down for you out of heaven he expects you to get off your lazy ass and get to work and build heaven on earth he isn't going to do it for you!

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by pellian

 

God will take care of everything and scripts everything is a cop out for lazy people to do nothing! If you believe in god then he gave you a brain with logic and reason to figure things out use it. You think he wants to hang out with a bunch of do nothing lazy couch potatoes who expect him to do everything for them? What parent wants to have to do everything for their child forever? none! They want them to grow up and be self sufficient. He put you here to learn how to figure things out and take care of yourself.

Ever heard of the phrase "God helps those who help themselves"? It really is up to you God is not going to magically float everything down for you out of heaven he expects you to get off your lazy ass and get to work and build heaven on earth he isn't going to do it for you!

edit on 18-11-2012 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)

This thought just came to mind,God is a republican!


Peace,
Kev

reply to post by kdog1982


God is an American.

Rofl, a chance at survival? I don't care how close you are to whichever god, you still will not get out of life alive.

reply to post by kdog1982

This thought just came to mind,God is a republican!

Impossible he couldn't be a republican he tells the truth and like I said expects people to use their brains to become self sufficient and do for themselves. Republican are big government theft and spend welfare loving socialists commies who want a nanny state...

Oh I got ya... You don't believe that BS they spout about limited government and self sufficiency blah blah do ya? Just look at there track record... They are socialist commie scumbags just like the democrats thefting and spending us into oblivion.

I find it suitable that God will put me next to a well equipped survivalist such as yourself in a time where you need preps.

You don't need to fear death if you have Jesus. Even if you do die he'll just resurrect you later. You can't prepare for everything anyway. We're all going to die in the end anyway, wether you die now or later makes no difference when the outcome is the same. Death is inevitable.

Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by kdog1982

 

This thought just came to mind,God is a republican!

Impossible he couldn't be a republican he tells the truth and like I said expects people to use their brains to become self sufficient and do for themselves. Republican are big government theft and spend welfare loving socialists commies who want a nanny state...

Oh I got ya... You don't believe that BS they spout about limited government and self sufficiency blah blah do ya? Just look at there track record... They are socialist commie scumbags just like the democrats thefting and spending us into oblivion.

edit on 18-11-2012 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)

The "Cleansing of the Temple" refers to the narrative of Jesus and the money changers and occurs in all four canonical gospels of the New Testament. In this Gospel episode Jesus and his disciples travel to Jerusalem for Passover, where he expels the money changers from the Temple, accusing them of turning the Temple into a den of thieves through their commercial activities.[1][2] In the Gospel of John Jesus refers to the Temple as “my Father’s house” thus in some views making a claim to being the Son of God[3] though it is common in the Abrahamic religions to refer to God as God the Father. This is the only account of Jesus using physical force in any of the Gospels and is related to the topic of "but to bring a sword." The narrative occurs near the end of the Synoptic Gospels (at Mark 11:15–19, 11:27–33, Matthew 21:12–17, 21:23–27 and Luke 19:45–48, 20:1–8) and near the start in the Gospel of John (at John 2:13–16). Some scholars believe that these refer to two separate incidents, given that the Gospel of John also includes more than one Passover.[4]

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Or,so they say.
Time to clean house.