Certain people believe society would function better without religion, which they see as a stumbling block to reason and progress. Religion is
portrayed by secularists as some kind of a veil of ignorance that needs to be lifted in order for society to progress.
Very well... I'd like to ask what happens when religion/spirituality is replaced with secularism?
With religion out of the way, can we expect to see the rise of rational scientifically oriented societies? Will the masses become passionate about
science and progress? Will the average individual apply reason and logic to making a difference for the better? With religion removed from existence,
will we start progressing as a species in leaps and bounds?
Its easy to measure the progress of a secular society that is free from religious influence.
Just look into what society spends energy, time and money on. To do this, look at its mass media which is a reflection of society.
mass media reflect a general interest towards science, progress and all those good things religion gets in the way of? Or does it reflect an obsession
with something lesser....like shallow entertainment, celebrities and materialism?
Take a look at the trash being passed off as "entertainment" and "lifestyle" on your TVs and cinema.
Look at the overpaid celebrities / entertainers / sports stars.... and the movies, shows, music and big games that they make happen. There are entire
industries that keep this garbage in production, influencing millions. This isn't something that is being forced on to people by governments or
corporations for profit, but rather the people living in secular societies want this kind of garbage
. The minds of the secular masses fuel
these industries. These masses indirectly pay for the mansions, cars, vacations, drug habits of celebrities. Never mind soaring prices, poverty, debt,
war... the "the show will go on"
. The industry produces it because the people want it because the industry produces it, and so on.
This shallowness and vapidity that pervades society are direct products of a secular system, not a religious one. Period.
Sure, we all can sit on pedestals smugly laugh at people who enjoy trash like *insert stupid TV show* and pretend to be better because our taste in
entertainment are more refined
. But that's not the real issue as this is NOT a rant against trashy mainstream entertainment and its millions
of followers. Rather, its just one simple example of how stupidity and irrationality can breed even in a secular framework, without any religious
A secular society sans religion did not make the masses passionate about science and progress. Instead it has cultivated an obsession with shallow
celebrities and the "entertainment" they have to offer. The average childs role models and heroes are glorified pop stars and fictional characters....
not Einstein or Darwin.
A secular society sans religion has failed to influence individuals to try and make a difference for the better. Instead it has made individuals
selfish and apathetic, coveting flashy gadgets and cars that are marketed. These are the true fruits of an irreligious, secular society.
Can we honestly say that a secular society without religion guarantees intellectual development?
Is it logical that secular society monetarily rewards shallow entertainers MORE than scientists, doctors and teachers who work to make a difference in
the lives of many?
Is the dumbing down of the masses through godless entertainment the promised progress of a secular society?
If these are the kind of questions that you have asked yourself, then you are the kind of person I'd like on board this discussion.
My stance is secularism is NOT a magical solution to the 'absurdity' of religion, but rather brings with it its own brand of absurdity.
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