posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 05:35 PM
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge
None of it is achievable until the two sides agree to stop trying to kill each other. Specific to this situation though, if we want to look to
details, is Hamas's charter and stated purpose for existing. Before quoting their own Mission Statement/Charter tho...
I'd note Gaza has been at war with Israel these last few days. Ramallah has not. The West Bank has not been firing into Israel, up and down the line.
They haven't been over-running Settlements or even trying to. This, right now anyway, is Gaza City vs. Tel Aviv for the leaders of those two powers.
The citizens never wanted this, I'm sure. Who WANTS to die for the glory of others that don't even care about the loss? However...one side actually
codifies it into written word. Until Hamas first stops firing thousands of rockets into Israel (Over NINE THOUSAND since Israel withdrew from
Gaza...and that is what cease fires do) there can be no peace...ony brief periods between fights.
Hamas regards Nationalism (Wataniyya) as part and parcel of the
religious faith. Nothing is loftier or deeper in Nationalism than waging
Jihad against the enemy and confronting him when he sets foot on the land
of the Muslims. And this becomes an individual duty(25) binding on every
Muslim man and woman; a woman must go out and fight the enemy even without
her husband's authorization, and a slave without his masters' permission.
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the
international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all
contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing
any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the
nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the
movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the
banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: "Allah is
the all-powerful, but most people are not aware."
and another passage from Article 13 of the Hamas Charter:
There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad.
The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste
of time(27), an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble
to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain
game. As the Hadith has it:
Now Israel at least has someone to negotiate with in the West Bank. It's not great but someone exists who is capable of negotiating in good faith.
That has no equivalent in Gaza. They are run by very VERY different organizations and leadership groups......which is something the media seems to
So if a cease fire comes before Hamas believes they've been totally defeated OR been victorious (which by their charter comes at NOTHING short of the
total reoccupation of all the land Israel currently calls a nation) then the fighting will resume and the war will pick up again. Next time, perhaps,
with better weapons and more destructive systems. This one saw the introduction of medium range missiles. What shall another period of rearming
In logistics? OF COURSE both sides may discuss cease fire.... Israel has to be running a bit low on Iron Dome stocks and Hamas has got to be running a
bit low of Missiles. Cease fire over there never seems to mean actually ending anything. It's just a mutually agreed time to re-arm and fight better
I failed to source my stuff. My apologies
The Charter of Allah: The Platform of the Islamic Resistance Movement
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