Police Chief Uses Unique Method To Control Homeless Population, page 1


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reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 01:50 PM by AfterInfinity
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You got all that from the word "Permit"? I believe that means they are ALLOWED to do all those things you were ranting about.


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 01:50 PM by windword
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Sounds ideal for some and problematic for others. what measures are in place to insure that discrimination isn't a factor in deciding who get the permit and who doesn't? What guidelines are being used for acceptance and denial. Is it first come first serve, with a limit on the number of permits?

I wonder how much the permits cost, and how long they're good for.
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reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 02:07 PM by FreebirdGirl
reply to post by MDDoxs



Waste of money? Depends on your perspective. I'm sure the businesses that invest in prisons see this as a great idea. Free Labor.


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 02:30 PM by randomtangentsrme
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
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post by MDDoxs



Waste of money? Depends on your perspective. I'm sure the businesses that invest in prisons see this as a great idea. Free Labor.


You hit the nail on the head. There is a small prison up in that area that does day labor. When I was working with a theater company up there they would use the prisoners all the time for moving props, and installing sets.



reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 02:48 PM by kawika
THe Hawaiians can camp on the beach... If I have to be homeless, I am going to use my last few bucks to get to Hawaii.

NYT story

“There was no choice but to come on the beach,” said Ms. Greenwood, 60, who is disabled because of a work-related injury eight years ago and lost her benefits a month before losing her home.

Homelessness in Hawaii has become so pervasive that the governor has assigned a state employee to work full time at getting people off the beaches and into transitional housing. Once there, they have access to rent assistance programs and low-income housing.


While hundreds of homeless people live on Honolulu’s beaches, including the tourist center Waikiki, it is the Waianae Coast on the semiarid west shore where the problem is most visible. The population of Waianae, home to about 40,000 of Oahu’s 900,000 people, is predominantly native Hawaiian and is historically low income.

Hawaii’s economy has been strong in the last two years, and the state consistently has one of the lowest unemployment rates in the nation. The real estate market has skyrocketed along with the job growth, and houses on the Waianae Coast that rented for $200 or $300 a month a couple of years ago are now advertised for more than $1,000.

Nobody knows exactly how many people are living on the beach. Kaulana Park, the state’s point man for the homeless, estimated that more than 1,000 people lived on the Waianae Coast beaches, but he cautioned that any count was good only on the day it was taken. And that estimate does not account for the hidden homeless: people who sleep on a relative’s sofa, or in their cars, or camp in areas not as visible as the public beaches.

Many living on the beach have jobs, mostly in the service and construction sectors. They include families with children, who attend public schools by day and sleep in tents on the beach at night.



reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 02:50 PM by kawika
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How hard could it be to build dorms where people without a home could go!?


We have that. Called Army, Navy Air Force, Marines...


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 03:14 PM by Trustfund
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Not for people with physical disabilities or mental problems, which a whole lot of homeless people have.


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 03:35 PM by ganjoa
reply to post by Trustfund



Originally posted by Trustfund
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
A government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take it all away.


If we had that type of government we wouldn't have homeless people.


Pardon please but your logic doesn't follow:
1. government is already big enough to give & take away
2. government isn't compelled to do the right thing
SO
Just because the resources exist, just because the needs of the homeless exist
Doesn't affect the policy or practice of our Government.

But it IS a nice thought nonetheless

ganjoa
edit on 17-11-2012 by ganjoa because: added the quote for clarity

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