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Originally posted by oper8zhin
OH PLEASE!!!!!
C'mon folks, this gun-control-stunt is the most obvious one yet!! We have someone buying COMMON and POPULAR firearms that are sold every day by the TON to those exercising their 2nd Amendment RIGHT in America, and a mother, (who probably hasnt the SLIGHTEST idea about firearms) goes and reports HER OWN SON as buying "exactly the same COMMON POPULAR EVERYDAY firearms that were involved in the shooting!!!
IT STINKS SO BAD ON SO MANY LEVELS that it is LAUGHABLE!!!!
C'mon folks, put your thinking caps on.
We know that there is a "behind the scenes"push that will be done "under the radar" and planned for "after the election" for gun control involving assault rifles.edit on 17-11-2012 by oper8zhin because: (no reason given)
Source
A Bolivar man has been arrested and charged in Polk County Circuit Court with class B felony assault in the first degree, class C felony making a terrorist threat and felony armed criminal action after allegedly planning to shoot people with assault-type rifles at Bolivar Walmart.
According to a probable cause statement by Det. Dusty Ross of the Bolivar Police Department, Blaec James Lammers, 20, initially planned on attending a showing of the "Twilight" movie at B&B Theatre in Bolivar and shooting people at it.
Originally posted by Sissel
I have been there and done this with people who say he could get guns many ways, but, if they weren't available, would he have done this crime with a knife? Clearly, with guns, his intention was to take out as many people as fast as he could.
Oh, boy, I can hear the "if everyone could conceal and carry," blah, blah, blah. He would have been taken out right away..........
Commence slamming me!
reply to post by boymonkey74
TPTB have bigger better guns and more folk to use em good luck fighting them
Back to the OP yes I agree why do you need 1000's of rounds? I think it was Chris rock who said "just make bullets a 100 bucks each then we will see less gun crime"
I have been there and done this with people who say he could get guns many ways, but, if they weren't available, would he have done this crime with a knife? Clearly, with guns, his intention was to take out as many people as fast as he could.
Originally posted by timidgal
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
A well-stated argument for gun advocates and you're right, I wouldn't put it passed our government to create such a fear-mongering event as a means to an end. Unfortunately, I do not live in a state where you can carried a concealed weapon into a public facility without being some arm of law enforcement or active military (you need to leave it in your car) so I think I'll stick with my plan for watching the movies at home...
TG
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by timidgal
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
A well-stated argument for gun advocates and you're right, I wouldn't put it passed our government to create such a fear-mongering event as a means to an end. Unfortunately, I do not live in a state where you can carried a concealed weapon into a public facility without being some arm of law enforcement or active military (you need to leave it in your car) so I think I'll stick with my plan for watching the movies at home...
TG
Well, there are places in the town we live in that post "no guns" signs, too, so even in states with good laws, you can be restricted. I do know what you mean, though. I made a point of avoiding a lot of places after 9/11, that would make good targets. Never was much of one for malls anyway, but theme parks were a problem. Any really big event was an automatic "no".
Maybe if enough people stood up and demanded that we are allowed to protect ourselves, and refused, publicly and noisily, to do no business with places that don't allow guns, things might change.
Originally posted by timidgal
I think that in a perfect world, an advocate of gun ownership would agree with your statement (or even not in a perfect world if their beliefs were strong enough), but the reality is that we don't live in a perfect world. We live in the type you have described - scared and insecure - and when that's the pervasive environment, you just can not count that everyone will be rational enough to follow your philosophy. Unfortunately, fear breeds even more fear which creates an explosive situation. I too changed a lot of my habits and levels of comfort after 9/11, but I still didn't think that carrying a gun was an answer. Adrenaline can be a dangerous thing if you're not properly trained to deal with it. Just my opinion but I'm trying to keep an open mind to your perspective.