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posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by thatblissguyThese are the basics, why come to THE DISINFO FORUM and SPREAD YOUR OPINIONS that COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS ALL OBSERVATION and not even know what a sock puppet is? LOL!


THESE DRIVE BYS LEAVE AND DONT DISCUSS ANYTHING,. THE MARK OF AN AGENT



I think you're trying to say, everyone that doesn't buy into every topic and/or disagrees with your perceptions of things is out to get you in some way? Do you ever feel as if people are following you on the street, watching what you do?




posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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It's easy to work out why ATS was so much better back then... because ATS wasn't so mainstream, it was harder to find and thus mostly visited by knowledgeable and dedicated conspiracy theorists with a real interest in alternative information... not just a pack of Facebook kids.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by Valedictorian

Originally posted by thatblissguy
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What do YOU know about Operation Earnest Voice, NTrepid Sock Puppets, US Special Command, Tampa, FL?


Nuffin.........I only know about trolling in reference to the earlier remarks made by this op.
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NONE OF THESE AGENTS ARE ALLOWED TO MENTION, ACKNOWLEDGE, OR EVEN REPEAT THESE KEYWORDS:

Operation Earnest Voice
NTrepid Sock Puppets

anonnews.org...



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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I can't help think a thread made to highlight a major issue ATS is struggling with as it moves into the future turns out to not only highlight the issue but serve as an object example of the very same problem. I was about to reply and agree with some of the things said in the first part of the thread until I saw the last part. Err... Yeah... Some topics prove themselves out I suppose.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by thatblissguy
reply to post by SyntheticPerception
 


Wow, so you know nothing about dis-information. Why don't you show us how good you can research something, since you obviously hang out on conspiracy forums, and report back to us as fast as you had something to say. These are the basics, why come to THE DISINFO FORUM and SPREAD YOUR OPINIONS that COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS ALL OBSERVATION and not even know what a sock puppet is? LOL!


THESE DRIVE BYS LEAVE AND DONT DISCUSS ANYTHING,. THE MARK OF AN AGENT

EVEN THOUGH I KNOW YOU ARE A SOCK PUPPET. EVERYONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW NEEDS TO GOOGLE:

Operation Earnest Voice
Sock Puppets
NTrepid
US Special Command, Tampa, FL


I refreshed my page and this thread came up. I clicked it because lately (after joining) I found older threads to be more interesting.. After reading your thread I decided to offer how I felt about the subject, and what I noticed after starting to post here.

That is all..

I even said "In my opinion" and "I could be wrong"

I promise you I am not an AGENT

I would kindly suggest you stop smacking the illusions around you with a stick.

This is what I meant in my above post.. We act differently now and get defensive (you calling me a agent)
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posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Do you believe in dis-information agents AT ALL on ATS? I think we all come here looking for something, like the Matrix, we want to take the red pill. What brought you to ATS? What kept you? What interests you most?



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by thatblissguy

NONE OF THESE AGENTS ARE ALLOWED TO MENTION, ACKNOWLEDGE, OR EVEN REPEAT THESE KEYWORDS:

Operation Earnest Voice
NTrepid Sock Puppets


Or they burst into flame, like a vampire dragged into the sunlight.

"HSSS NO NO NOT...THE WORDS HSSS We cannot mention them! HSSS!"

Ahem:

Operation Earnest Voice
NTrepid Sock Puppets

(rolls eyes)



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by SerratedSoul
reply to post by thatblissguy
 


Any thread containing info regarding modern day/contemporary secret agencies, sects and "illuminati" is clawing at shadows. They are mere child's-play when compared to this iconic ATS thread:

All Roads Lead to Rome

This is one of the most comprehensive and unifying conspiracy theories I have ever read. When you consider the research put into it the way in which its presented, it makes all others look like nothing, because those others only, at best, grasp at fractions of the whole picture. And, when paired with these other supplemental threads, just makes everything "click":

Tax Day, April 15th
The Paradox of the Left/Right Political Divide and the Denial of Conspiracies
The True Hidden Structure of Power
America: The Real History
The Great Seal of the US is deciphered
At the very top, less than 12 men control the world

'All Roads Lead to Rome" and a few of those other supplemental threads were put together by one of the most brilliant minds to grace ATS, ProtoplasmicTraveller. He lays it all out for us and continued to add up until the staff decided to axe him for whatever reasons they deemed fit.
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So true, sadly, the infantile addition and domination of the 20-34 year old partially educated white male syndrome energy pushed the rather tolerant proto over the edge, as well as many others. Where there was once discussion, there is now hit and run one liners, and the ever present "I went to school and read it so I know" attitude. The prevalence of "show me a link" as proof, or even the endless battle cry "show me proof" energy has reduced the entire site to a sandbox with aspartame loaded children in control of all the sand.

There does seem to be an energy behind the effort to create fighting, anger, and an all around sense of chaos, as the effort does not seem to be organic in nature. Sadly, as with anything, given time, the destruction is inevitable and I guess the site is there now. What does seem to be interesting, now that I am thinking about it, is the inclusion of the trolling energy by the site mods themselves. It seems either they are blind, or enablers, as so many posts contribute nothing but hate or disruption and are left in place. The sane of us could all agree on the pest posts, the disruptive posts, and yet, they are allowed to derail any thread in the name of fairness - like saying the screaming child in the movie theater can stay because it paid for a ticket.

Alas, time to move on, as there is no upside from here.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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YA real convincing that you JUST joined ATS YET YOU USE AN ESOTERIC AND OCCULT Avatar/Signature/Profile Picture. You are obviously versed in ancient knowledge, the esoteric, and the occult, and you JUST found ATS? lol hahaha you are most likely a new personality as part of the MetalGear software.YOU HAVE JUST DESCRIBED YOURSELF AS SUCH AS IS OUTLINED HERE:

What is 'Metal Gear' ?

"We codenamed the software that we believe Booz Allen Hamilton and some of their partners are working on.
The nature of the software is partially known, from the documents that we have seen and from what some employees have said it is a software that would allow a single agent to command an 'army' of sockpuppet accounts on social networking mediums. It is sophisticated enough to develop a 'profile' for each puppet to add a level of 'realism' to each. In short, there would be no fesiable way to distinguish between 100 people commenting on a subject, and 100 of these puppets doing the same."

anonnews.org...



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Aside from good points about ATS being more available to people without doing extensive searching....

The thread in the OP is from the research forum, which is limited to those who request "scholar" status. Not sure what the rules were in 2003, but you won't find any trolling on new threads in that forum either.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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WOW, SO YOU TOLD US SOMETHING WE CAN ALL LOOK UP ON WIKIPEDIA. HAHAHA. LAME EFFORT AGENT, THEY SHOULD FIRE YOU,


I am not an AGENT..


Just relax friend!

I mean you no harm. This was the point in my first post..

I found ATS after an "encounter" with something. Two years later I finally got over my fear of posting.

That is all..

I am not an Agent.. that is crazy bro!



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Valedictorians make the best trolls................

Valedictorian is an academic title conferred upon the troll who delivers the closing or farewell statement at a graduation ceremony for outstanding trolls (called a valedictory). Valedictorians are usually the trolls with the highest ranking among his/her (there are female trolls) graduating class. The term is an anglicized derivation of the Latin vale dicere ("to say farewell"), historically rooted in the valedictorian's traditional role as the final speaker at the troll ceremony. The valedictory address generally is considered a final farewell to all other trolls, before they disperse to pursue their individual paths after graduating - such as working for the government as specialists in the field of spy-craft. These same make excellent candidates for future employment as agents for the NSA, CIA, FBI etc.

Our motto - "GAINING FULL CON-TROLL"
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posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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No they are just agents, read the damn rules of disinfo POSTED on the FORUM YOU ARE READING FROM!

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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OP: I agree that there are most definitely some PAID trolls lurking around the interwebs, pushing an agenda. Plenty of them. I'm pretty sure at least a few of the very aggressive and/or vocal members here may fit the bill. (No names-- "respect" and such...)

I'm sure many of us have read the "Confessions of an Internet Troll" alleged confession. If you haven't, it is well worth the read.

In regard to the question you keep asking, regarding "Operation Earnest Voice" and Ntrepid:



In March 2011 The Guardian reported that Ntrepid had won a $2.76 million contract for "online persona management" (commonly known as "sockpuppetry") operations from the U.S. military. The contract is for the creation of "fake online personas to influence net conversations and spread US propaganda." According to the US military, the technology would not be used in the U.S, or on sites owned by U.S. corporations such as Facebook and Twitter. Rather, it would be used exclusively outside the U.S. on sites owned by non-U.S. corporations, in order to counter violent extremist and enemy propaganda, US CENTCOM representatives claim.



Source: Wikipedia Ntrepid Entry


Kind of scary stuff. And that being said, one does have to wonder if they actually do keep this kind of activity exclusively outside US borders....



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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YA real convincing that you JUST joined ATS YET YOU USE AN ESOTERIC AND OCCULT Avatar/Signature/Profile Picture. You are obviously versed in ancient knowledge, the esoteric, and the occult, and you JUST found ATS? lol hahaha you are most likely a new personality as part of the MetalGear software.


I chose my avatar because of events I have encountered in my life.. personal things I have spoken about in a few threads.

Read some of my posts.. you will see I am NOT an AGENT

That is exactly what I would say if I were an agent though!



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posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by thatblissguy
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
 


Do you believe in dis-information agents AT ALL on ATS? I think we all come here looking for something, like the Matrix, we want to take the red pill. What brought you to ATS? What kept you? What interests you most?

Yes of course I do... anyone with common sense can realize that there are agents pushing agendas on ATS and some other forums. I also think that the people who strongly deny any such possibility are probably agents too.

But in reality it doesn't matter because there aren't a whole lot of them... I just ignore anything which seems like disinformation and move along. You can still say almost anything you like and research what ever you like, no one is stopping you.

Of course the threads these days will be filled with more fluff, but only a small percentage of that fluff is actually disinformation. The majority of it is just from plain old idiots and trolls who have nothing better do to. Letting it get to you means you've lost the game.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by iwilliam
OP: I agree that there are most definitely some PAID trolls lurking around the interwebs, pushing an agenda. Plenty of them. I'm pretty sure at least a few of the very aggressive and/or vocal members here may fit the bill. (No names-- "respect" and such...)

I'm sure many of us have read the "Confessions of an Internet Troll" alleged confession. If you haven't, it is well worth the read.

In regard to the question you keep asking, regarding "Operation Earnest Voice" and Ntrepid:



In March 2011 The Guardian reported that Ntrepid had won a $2.76 million contract for "online persona management" (commonly known as "sockpuppetry") operations from the U.S. military. The contract is for the creation of "fake online personas to influence net conversations and spread US propaganda." According to the US military, the technology would not be used in the U.S, or on sites owned by U.S. corporations such as Facebook and Twitter. Rather, it would be used exclusively outside the U.S. on sites owned by non-U.S. corporations, in order to counter violent extremist and enemy propaganda, US CENTCOM representatives claim.



Source: Wikipedia Ntrepid Entry


Kind of scary stuff. And that being said, one does have to wonder if they actually do keep this kind of activity exclusively outside US borders....


AHHHH THIS PERSON IS DEFINITELY NOT A AGENT! NOTICE HOW HE IS OBJECTIVE, NON-BIAS, BUT IS A CONCERNED CITIZEN and ACTUALLY POSTS INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE TOPIC.

THE FIRST PERSON TO DO SO AFTER ALL THOSE AGENTS HIT THE THREAD FIRST! OMFG LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS THREAD, AND THE 03 THREAD IN THE POST.

NOTICE HOW NONE OF THE OTHERS BOTHER TO ENGAGE IN ANY DISCUSSION, THEY ARE AGENTS.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by thatblissguy
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I do not want to sound rude.. but you are really paranoid. A break from ATS might be good for you, I am not trying to mock you.

Any 'ancient knowledge" has come by means of hard work, and looking inside for answers. Not from reading ATS..

I wish you the best, take care.
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