Gangs Of Muslim Men Are Going Round And Raping White Kids In UK

reply to post by ollncasino

No one is suggesting that all Muslims support child-abuse any more than anyone is suggesting that all priests support child-abuse.

Thanks for the clarification Oll.

For some reason, whenever I read your posts I'm left with the impression that you believe all Muslims are in cahoots to bring in Sharia Law, molest children and usurp Western democracies.

It must be my woeful reading comprehension

You only have to look at the trial not long ago.

If that was 20 white men raping kids and passing them around like a piece of meat, it would be front page news for the next two months.

The fact that a specific ethnic group was the culprit made it page 38, under dog burps the alphabet.

The police are afraid of admitting it's a problem, the press are scared of reprisals should they highlight this, the public is scared of having an opinion because it isn't politically correct..... seriously.... this isn't a 'great' country anymore... were second class citizens because we are indigenous to this country.

It's ok, just sweep anything to do with colour, creed, or religion under the rug.

Let's just read more and more # about Jimmy Saville....... it's politically correct to do so because he is both white and a peado!!!!!

Originally posted by Kandinsky
Thanks for the clarification Oll.

For some reason, whenever I read your posts I'm left with the impression that you believe all Muslims are in cahoots to bring in Sharia Law, molest children and usurp Western democracies.

It must be my woeful reading comprehension

Indeed. My reading comprehension must also be woeful.

When I read your posts I am left with the impression that you are of a particular politically correct leaning that prevents you from seeing what you don't want to see.

Luckily, such a perspective is dying out quickly in the UK and we are getting back to dealing with tangible reality rather than politically correct wishful thinking.

they arn't British Pakistani catholic priests by any chance are they lol

reply to post by seabhac-rua


Yes ..it is true what you say to it being a cultural issue .
I just tried to be fair at the end of the statement coz I know that inside all of us we know right from wrong . If our religion tries to make us go against this internal voice , that voice is still their anyway , so good people of any religion or culture follow the inner knowing , rather than the bas stuff that goes against inner truth .

Hitler was a Catholic self proclaimed "Christian".

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." Adolf Hitler

Just sayin'...

reply to post by openeyeswideshut

Originally posted by openeyeswideshut
Sounds like the PM is trying to pull out a race card for some reason. Notice when he mentions that the majority of child abusers are white, then goes on straight away to say that something needs to be done about the muslems abusing white kids. He is simply trying to get a reaction out of a certian population of britians citizens.

I don't see that. I see him stating a fact - that the majority of offenders are white. I then see him state another fact - that a small minority of offenders are of a specific ethnic background, Pakistani. A fact that also appears to be little known to the populace when compared to the white majority. I see him comparing and contrasting the awareness, or lack thereof, between two types of offenders.

I don't understand how people see this as racism. Two facts. Spoken in a statement about child sexual exploitation. No racism there. Plain, cold hard facts.

Are people denying that a handful of Pakistani people are engaged in sexual exploitation? If no one is....why is this a problem?

This information could prevent such a crime from happening. Attempts to dismiss(in general, not you in particular) this information as veiled racism could very well be putting young ones at risk to predators. The way I see it....that is far more despicable than the wounded cries of perceived racism.

The BNP are trying to milk this another way. By "educating" white girls on how to avoid being groomed by Asian rape gangs. A clumsy, cynical ploy to turn a whole demographic of white girls into Muslim fearing BNP supporters. I have no idea how I got on their mailing list, but I've started getting newsletters from them. I know I could just tick the box, but I like to hatemail them back. Anyway, here's their letter.

BNP – Blazing the trail for justice Dear fellow patriot, "Time and time again it's a white girl being raped by Muslim men." At last, the reality of the street grooming crisis is being recognised. The latest person to wake up and repeat what the BNP and I have been saying since 2001 is Conservative MP for Keighley, Kris Hopkins. It's great to see Establishment figures forced to speak our language, because every time one of them does, it raises expectations of action and makes even more ordinary people feel that they too can speak out. When, as is sure to be the case, the Government fails to deliver, the public will still demand action – and they'll know exactly who to turn to in order to get it! But, you know, it's only thanks to us that natural-born cowards like Hopkins are finally speaking out. He admitted it himself in the House of Commons yesterday: "Time and time again it's a white girl being raped by Muslim men and if we deny that fact in this House then the BNP and everybody else climbs on board." There is, of course, nobody else! We first brought this scandal into the public eye while Mr Hopkins still had his head firmly buried in the sand. We fought a General Election campaign on it in Keighley in 2005. We got councillors elected on it in the town. I was twice put on trial in Leeds Crown Court for speaking out about it in 2004. And, as you know, we've kept on hammering away at this issue ever since, demanding justice for Charlene Downes and all the other victims of Muslim grooming gangs. If it hadn't been for the dedicated and loyal support of people just like you helping us over all those years, the entire Establishment would still be denying that there's a problem. As it is, together, we've made them break ranks. We've forced the police and courts to arrest and jail at least a few of the worst perpetrators. We've forced open the doors for even more effective action. But we can't stop now. If we do, then the Establishment voices still denying the issue will recover their poise and sweep the whole issue back under the carpet again. Voices like that of Labour MP Yasmin Qureshi who told the House that even discussing the issue was "playing into the hands" of the BNP and claimed that the fact that the victims of abuse were white was "coincidental not deliberate". The arrogant denial of creatures like Qureshi is not a victimless crime. She went on to claim that "the victims in these cases are always the vulnerable ones. It's never the child who has got a secure happy family life." This is a wicked comment on two levels: First, it subtly shifts the blame from the Muslim predators and the useless state institutions onto the families of the victims. Second, it helps to conceal the fact that, because a lot of girls in working class areas are now wise to the grooming danger, the gangs are now moving on to target girls in mobile phone shops. Those girls need warning too, but the grooming deniers want to convince everyone that it only happens to poor kids from broken homes, so they are deliberately keeping quiet about this new aspect to the problem. And they will get away with it – unless we stop them.

TextThe good news is that the Young British National Party's (YBNP) brilliant pink grooming awareness leaflet is proving a huge success. Since so many MPs are still denying so many young girls the knowledge they need to be safe, we are doing the job ourselves. The bad news is that we we're completely out of stock. We're giving a lot of them free to young activists who can't afford to buy them, but are willing and able to put them out but can't afford to print them quickly enough. Plus, there are many hundreds of schools where we don't have any activists nearby and which we can't reach. So I need your help to keep this operation going and you've got a simple choice of how: Either contact us today and tell us of your decision to buy a small supply of leaflets and put them out yourself. They are big, glossy things and so are quite expensive to ship, but you don't need a huge number to make the required impact and get a whole school talking about it. £10 will buy you enough to do the job! Or, simply call and give a credit card donation to help pay for the new print run we need done before the end of this week. Any later and we would miss the boat. A minimum print run of 25,000 will cost £1,500 but really we need to order at least 50,000. For every £25 that you give we can supply young activists with the leaflets needed to do yet another entire school and warn another areas "white roses" of the danger. I really believe in this campaign. And I believe that at least one person reading this appeal will share my belief and be able to make the special sacrifice that will make a special difference. Is that person you? Just one donation, right now, of £500 would do that job. It would enable us to place our big extra order first thing in the morning. It will set the ball rolling – it will warn and save hundreds if not thousands of young girls. They are our future. They are Britain's future. I'm not asking you to risk prison in order to save them, but I am asking you to dig deep – right now! Thank you for caring and for answering this call! Faithfully, Nick Griffin Chairman, British National Party

What a *Snip* maggot that man is.




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reply to post by HumanObserver


Isn't there a huge sex scandal unfolding over there involving the molestation of children by very high profile people? And now we have the PM making accusations of Muslim men running around the UK raping kids? Like really?

Originally posted by Kandinsky

Thanks for the clarification Oll.

For some reason, whenever I read your posts I'm left with the impression that you believe all Muslims are in cahoots to bring in Sharia Law, molest children and usurp Western democracies.

It must be my woeful reading comprehension

At the fear of making an off topic post (having said that, you are a mod Kandinsky so if you have asked a question it is only right and proper that I answer it):-

(1) In response to the question of how supportive if at all would they be of the official introduction of Shari’ah Law into British law for Muslims, a poll of British Muslim students revealed that

• 39% were very or fairly supportive
• 19% were not very supportive
• 23% not supportive at all
• 20% were not sure.

YouGov

(2) The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre have stated that data currently suggests that a disproportionate number of online Group and gang associated child sexual exploitation offenders are British Asian, particularly British Pakistani, males.

Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre

See this post here for further clarification.

(3) In response to the question of how supportive if at all they would be of the introduction of a worldwide Caliphate based on Shari’ah Law, in a poll of British Muslim students

• 34% were very or fairly supportive
• 14% were not very supportive,
• 12% were not supportive at all.
• 40% were not sure.

YouGov


Of course a poll of 390 British Muslim students in 2008 doesn't represent British Muslims in general. It does however arguably represent the views of many of the Muslim community's future non-religious leaders.

The YouGov report really is a fascinating report. If you wish to have a discussion about it generally, could I suggest that you open a dedicated thread?

I will be sure to contribute to it.

Originally posted by My_Reality

Are people denying that a handful of Pakistani people are engaged in sexual exploitation? If no one is....why is this a problem?

Attempts to dismiss(in general, not you in particular) this information as veiled racism could very well be putting young ones at risk to predators. The way I see it....that is far more despicable than the wounded cries of perceived racism.

The politically correct are clearly not doing themselves any favours by attempting to suppress the reporting of child abuse on the grounds of perceived xenophobia.

In fact, they have clearly shot themselves in the foot by attempting to do so.

Protecting children from sexual abuse is surely more important than political correctness.

If you want an insight into how cowardly public debate in Britain has become, look no further than the controversy over the Rochdale Asian sex gang. The discussion about the despicable crimes committed by these eight Pakistanis and one Afghani has revealed extraordinary levels of relativism and self-censorship in modern Britain. Indeed, it seems it is now virtually impossible to have a serious discussion about problematic cultural attitudes, because to do so would apparently offend minorities and, even worse, stir up the passions of the latently racist white masses.

And so, in the name of protecting Muslim communities' sensitivities and dampening down white working-class people's alleged savagery, we keep quiet about certain things; we gag ourselves.

The truth is that there is something specific going on here, something which is more prevalent among Asian communities, particularly Muslim ones, than among other communities. For a variety of reasons – mainly because the attitudes and behaviour of white working-class women are so profoundly at odds with the outlook of conservative Muslim communities – there is a tendency among many Muslims to look upon such women as inferior, as “sluts”.

The Telegraph

The above article by the UK quality newspaper The Telegraph argues that amongst Asian communities, particularly Muslim ones, there is a tendency to look upon white working class women women as inferior, as “sluts.

I don't know if that is true or not.

reply to post by ollncasino


This is an emotive subject with many disturbing features.

One thing that has only been slightly touched on is the demonisation of the 'white masses'.

Not only is the fear of being branded a racist a major contributory factor, part of the reasoning behind the reluctance to investigate, prosecute and report on the activities of groups such as that in the Rochdale case is the apparent fear of reprisals on Muslim and Asian communities in general from the white, non-Muslim majority.

Immediately I've got to question whether there have been many such reprisal attacks to warrant these alleged concerns and considerations?
And if so maybe if the police, CPS, media etc were seen to be doing their jobs then such attacks wouldn't be necessary.

It seems like smoke in mirrors to me and classic deflection tactics aimed at excusing and justifying incompetent and prejudicial policing etc and maintaining suspicions and divisions between the respective communities.

reply to post by ollncasino


From what I understand, it's not even Pakistanis as such, the issue appears to be people who come from a specific areas of Pakistan. I mentioned earlier that many of these people seem to come from poorer Northern areas in Pakistan (in some cases, the same village/small town).

I'm as loathe to say this is a Pakistani problem as much as I would a Muslim or an Asian problem. We need to get more specific.

Originally posted by Freeborn
Yes, there is a disproportionate problem within a section of the UK Muslim community but the vast majority of Muslims are as disgusted with this as the rest of us.

There's been a fair amount of outrage amongst the Rochdale Muslim population over these events. In the large trial earlier this year, one of the families publicly disowned one of the gang members. That's quite a big deal in this demographic as family is everything to these people: extended families live together, marriages are arranged to (partially) strengthen family ties, position in the wider community &c.

Originally posted by ANOK
Hitler was a Catholic self proclaimed "Christian".

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." Adolf Hitler

Just sayin'...

Sad part is the Holy Roman Empire was in unequivocal agreement with him regarding the Jewish holocaust.

Originally posted by ANOK
Hitler was a Catholic self proclaimed "Christian".

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." Adolf Hitler

Just sayin'...

I missed this first time around. I'm not so sure about this. I think Hitler had some kind of spirituality and need for 'religion' but I'm not sure whether it was Christian per se. Yes, he was raised in a Catholic context and went to a Catholic school briefly, and like most of us culturally Christian by default, and we're talking about a man who was born into a time with far more general Christian influence, but he appears to have had very conflicting views on the Christian church as a whole. Practically everyone who knew him gives differing thoughts on what he actually thought of the Christian church.

I think he opportunistically used religion as a propaganda tool and a way to tap into a potential target audience, particularly in the early days, when all political proponents like to claim some kind of moral authority. I think the mass appeal of the organised church was a big draw: the state-like structure it provided to the adherents, the use of iconography and language &c. I think anything useful was co-opted for their own ends. Even to the extent of suggesting that Jesus was probably Nordic. I'm under the impression that Hitler wasn't keen on the folkloric and pagan sides of Völkish belief but it served a greater purpose: familiar, traditional, home-ly, and also filled any vacuum left when removing 'tangible' Christian elements.

However, the Christian church would have always been a rival threat to goal of the Nazi stranglehold over the European people. As time went on, Hitler and the Nazi Party's relationship with Christianity and the Church becomes much less clear cut.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by ollncasino


If you really wanted to protect ALL children of England, from Rapists, a good place to start would be to target the religious group that is 13 times more likely to sexually abuse children and who are still being protected by political correctness.

Mathematics must be a problem for you then

edit on 19-11-2012 by biggilo because: (no reason given)

Well, I have a comment, but a lot of people won't like it. When my husband was deployed to Afghanistan, there was a really disturbing incident one day. A young boy came running up to the gate (my husband witnessed this), screaming for help. He stated that Muslim men were chasing him, that said men had already sexually assaulted him, and were trying to do so again. Yes, he had a legitimate complaint. From what my husband learned, this isn't uncommon over there. Now, my husband also worked with some Muslims that were good people, very sensible, that could not understand why the terrorist types act as the do, and that would not condone such acts, but there is a part of the culture that seems to favor such activity.

reply to post by Kandinsky

Muslim men are so gay, I hear that they raped the American ambassador in Benghazy too...seriously though, what makes you get an erection when doing a violent crime?
"yeah!! lets kill the American...but let me do him in the butt first...I have this raging erection right now"

Weird bastards....