Gangs Of Muslim Men Are Going Round And Raping White Kids In UK

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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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I suspect that a more accurate statement is that there is a problem with an element within a section of the Muslim community that views young, white girls as cheap and worthless and target them for sexual exploitation and abuse - and there seems a reluctance within MSM and some authorative bodies to acknowledge this problem.

Some people from inside Muslim communities have spoken out about this problem and have identified this as being a problem that is specific with people of Pakistani origin.

I think it's important to add that even though this 'group' of people have been highlighted it is still very much a small minority of people from within this section who are responsible.
However, I think it's also fair to say that it is more than likely that there are some who may not be actively involved but who are aware of these practices etc and refuse to inform the authorities due to a misplaced sense of loyalty to fellow Muslims.

Police seem reluctant to investigate such cases unless they have a wealth of evidence and the CPS seem reluctant to prosecute unless the case looks rock solid, both for fear of accusations of racism.

When such cases do come to court MSM label these groups as 'Asians' rather than Pakistani or Muslim - much to the annoyance of other Asians, and even Muslims, who fear being tarred with the same brush.

I agree that a lot of this is down to the undue influence of the PC Brigade and the impact they have had on our society.

I would also add that I know of cases in my hometown where the police have actively suppressed reporting of rapes by groups of people - one 'Asian' the other of 'Eastern European' origin - apparently they were more concerned about possible repercussions against these communities than they were about the safety of women!

But the sensationalism surrounding such case unfortunately goes some ways to vindicating this approach.

Many gullible people, or those outside the UK, will believe that there are large numbers of Muslims going around the whole country raping and abusing white girls at will whilst somehow being above or beyond the law.
And that is an outright lie.
Yes, there is a disproportionate problem within a section of the UK Muslim community but the vast majority of Muslims are as disgusted with this as the rest of us.

All the sensationalism does is desensitize people to the genuine cases and discredit those of us who have real concerns about creeping Islamification etc.
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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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That appears to be the MPs contention.


Sorry Oll, I mustn't have made myself clear. I was asking you if you thought that child abuse was endemic amongst Muslim males. I'm a bit thick sometimes and my posts can lack clarity.


I appreciate your links and ex-quotes of what the MP said. Cheers for that


So do you reckon that all Muslims are up for abusing white girls? When I read those studies I linked earlier, it seemed like they actually aren't. Of course, it's just possible my reading comprehension is at fault and I've utterly misunderstood the thrust of your argument and the contents of the studies.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
Hello Oll, I think the dispute is in the *extent* to which Muslim men are responsible for child abuse in the UK and specifically England.


Perhaps this report will shed light on the matter


Group and gang associated child sexual exploitation (GGACSE)

Data currently suggests that a disproportionate number of offenders are British Asian, particularly British Pakistani, males. However, more work needs to be done with a broader set of data to better understand whether any correlation exists.

Link


Of course, it could be argued that the The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) is being xenophobic in suggesting that any link exists between British Asian, particularly British Pakistani, males and child sexual exploration, despite the data currently suggesting so.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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Thanks!

Give me a moment to read it through. It looks interesting



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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This comment stood out to me.

"Women who do not wear the hijab are asking to be raped."

The leftists want to elevate the rights of muslems to NOT be offended by non head scarf wearing women, screw women's god-given right to be safe in their persons and NOT be raped for NOT wearing a head scarf.

The lunatics are in control of the asylum. I'm heading further back in the woods.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes so forgive me if I'm coming across as uninformed or plain stupid, your other comments seem to suggest that 'political correctness' is also responsible for covering up and allowing Muslims to engage in these activities.

Have I got that right?


That is correct. Political correctness has prevented Muslim sex offenders from being pursued properly.

Rochdale police and council 'repeatedly warned' about sex abuse risk in town


Social workers and police in a town where nine men were found guilty of running a child sexual exploitation ring had been warned dozens of times that local girls were at risk of abuse in the years before charges were brought in that case, the Guardian can reveal.

Figures obtained under the Freedom of Information Act show that an NHS team providing sexual health services to vulnerable young people made 83 referrals to Rochdale borough council about girls they thought were either being sexually exploited, or were at risk of exploitation, between 2004 and the end of 2010.

Staff on the crisis intervention team (CIT) also made 44 referrals to Greater Manchester police in the same period.

Rochdale MP Simon Danczuk said: "The Guardian's investigation shows without any doubt that police and social services ignored an endemic problem of abuse.

"Time and again, the local authority were alerted to the fact these girls were being abused and they failed to do anything. We now need to know what action is being taken against these people that turned a blind eye to abuse and ignored numerous cries for help from young, vulnerable girls."

The Guardian


Perhaps the people who turned a blind eye to allegations of sexual abuse by Muslims were afraid of being labeled xenophobic and racist?

Just a though...



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by TiredofControlFreaks
Please clarify something for me.

Does it make any difference to the victim if the person who is abusing or raping them is black/white, muslim/christian, male/female?

If anything I would be far far more concerned about people in positions of authority and trust abusing and raping others, then I am about random strangers roaming the streets looking for victims.

Would it make you feel better if it was exclusively white males doing the raping?


tired of control freaks


Go and live in Norway an see how concerned you would be(if you're a lady that is).


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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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This comment stood out to me.

"Women who do not wear the hijab are asking to be raped."


Yip, absolutely crazy and there is no place for it in our society.

But how many murderers and rapists have claimed inspiration from The Bible or other 'holy' writings?

Rape is an evil crime regardless of who does it or what their excuse or rationale - is the Muslim any worse than the rapist who claims some preceived slight from a teenage girlfriend or someone who claims Jesus told him him to do it in a vision?



The leftists want to elevate the rights of muslems to NOT be offended by non head scarf wearing women, screw women's god-given right to be safe in their persons and NOT be raped for NOT wearing a head scarf.


Do they?

Why blame 'leftists'?
Have you any evidence to support this?

The blight of political correctness transcends political allegiance - and as PC becomes increasingly entrenched it is actively supported by all those who put political ideaology and dogma before simple right and wrong, transparency and honesty.



The lunatics are in control of the asylum.


As they always have been.



I'm heading further back in the woods.


I wish I could join you!
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posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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Hi

maybe the peeps that turned a blind eye were also in correlation with the said BBC
Would not suprise me if it all ties in and the whole issue is bigger than ever imagined

Just my two peneth



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Idahomie

The leftists want to elevate the rights of muslems to NOT be offended by non head scarf wearing women, screw women's god-given right to be safe in their persons and NOT be raped for NOT wearing a head scarf.

The lunatics are in control of the asylum. I'm heading further back in the woods.


Interestingly, the Muslims who were convicted of sexually abusing girls aged 13 to 15 tried to play the race card.


...the gang's ringleader yesterday branded the judge a 'racist b******' after he and eight other men were jailed.

Judge Clifton... ...branded allegations that the prosecution was racially-motivated ‘nonsense’ and added: ‘This was triggered by your lust and greed. These sentences would apply to all defendants whether they be white or Asian.’

Daily Mail


The race card on this occasion did not work for the Muslim rapists.

It would also appear that political correctness is preventing investigations into allegations that Muslim sex gangs exist.


Martin Narey, former chief executive of children’s charity Barnardo’s, told the programme there was a ‘real problem’ which had to be confronted.

‘There is very troubling evidence that Asians are overwhelmingly represented in prosecutions for such offences,’ he said. Mr Narey added that ‘vulnerable girls on the street at night are generally white rather than more strictly-parented Asian girls’.

He was backed by Ann Cryer, a former Labour MP in Keighley, West Yorkshire. She said: ‘This is an absolute scandal.

They (the police and CPS) were petrified of being called racist and so reverted to the default of political correctness. They had a greater fear of being perceived in that light than in dealing with the issues in front of them.’

Daily Mail


Martin Narey, former chief executive of children’s charity Barnardo’s has stated that 'Asians' are overwhelmingly represented in prosecutions for sexual offences against vulnerable girls.

Yet the police, apparently, are afraid of being called racist and revert to political correctness mode.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Was it political correctness that dictated the same Rochdale police turn a blind eye to accusations and quite damning evidence of paedophilia against MP Cyril Smith?

Not everything is black and white my friend.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
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Was it political correctness that dictated the same Rochdale police turn a blind eye to accusations and quite damning evidence of paedophilia against MP Cyril Smith?

Not everything is black and white my friend.


I would deduce that it was naked political power rather than political correctness that prevented the police investigating allegations of pedophilia against MP Cyril Smith.

Perhaps the political power of the Muslim community has prevented the investigation of a number of sex crimes.

I suspect that in the case of Muslim gang related sex crimes however, political correctness was the over-riding obstacle.

Certainly Ann Cryer, a former Labour MP in Keighley, West Yorkshire appears to think so.


They (the police and CPS) were petrified of being called racist and so reverted to the default of political correctness. They had a greater fear of being perceived in that light than in dealing with the issues in front of them.’

Daily Mail



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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In comparison to their earlier study in 2000, the findings suggest a decline in serious forms of contact sexual abuse. In addition, the level of coerced sexual acts against under 16 year olds declined from a 6.8% national prevalence rate in 1998 to 5% in 2009. These findings are consistent with other data.


Given the rise in Muslim populations in the UK, I wonder how this tallies with your proposition that Muslim culture supports child abuse? Maybe it's the 'political correctness?'


Similarly, approximately 80% of sexual offences against children occur in the home of either the offender or the victim


This statistic would favour a white native offender as the Muslim population is less than 10%


The majority of victims originating from Africa and Eastern Europe were female, whilst from Asia, they were
mostly male. The explanation for these trends is likely to lie in the type of exploitation the children were trafficked into the UK to suffer. Many Eastern European girls, for example are trafficked to the UK for prostitution, whilst many Vietnamese boys are trafficked to work in the illegal drugs trade. However, intelligence suggests that a number of trafficked children are the victim of multiple forms of exploitation and abuse.


Eastern European countries tend to be white and non-Muslim, Vietnam isn't Muslim and it's hard to even guess about Africa. Northern Africa has a Muslim population so you could have a point??


Data currently suggests that a disproportionate number of offenders are British Asian, particularly British Pakistani, males. However, more work needs to be done with a broader set of data to better understand whether any correlation exists.


There's a suggestion of a 'disproportionate' number of Asian offenders.

Am I misinterpreting this? They aren't saying it's a wholesale Muslim issue. They aren't suggesting that all Muslims support child-abuse. In fact, they seem to be saying that most offences occur within the home by people that are related to them. Only that one small paragraph even relates to Asians>Pakistanis>Muslims.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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One merely has to look at the same culture and how it behaves in other non muslim countries it has moved into .

Friends daughter gang raped by muslim youth gang in Sydney Australia . Thats just one from actually facts .



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Oh right cause the DailyMail doesn't have any agenda or bias at all being an MSM source...



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky


Data currently suggests that a disproportionate number of offenders are British Asian, particularly British Pakistani, males. However, more work needs to be done with a broader set of data to better understand whether any correlation exists.


There's a suggestion of a 'disproportionate' number of Asian offenders.

Am I misinterpreting this? They aren't saying it's a wholesale Muslim issue.


The report does clearly state that a disproportionate number of offenders are British Asian, particularly British Pakistani, males.

A reasonable conclusion would be that a a disproportionate number of offenders are British Asian, particularly British Pakistani, males.

To the best of my knowledge, almost all Pakistani males in the UK are Muslim.

Unless you know better?



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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I am not going to read all comments as I already know the heart of the problem .

You cannot superimpose a culture from third world origins that does NOT , NOT respect the western females that are not off their faith .

Not only that . Their is a tendancy for the males of those cultures to disrepect females in general , thus the chronic RAPE figures in their own countries that are merely travelling with them abroad .

The problem lies in the heart of the beast and that is the belief system that woman are to be raped by them .
And NO , this is not just a muslim issue against women .

Obviously these creatures are hopefully the minority of the population , only because some of them fear to act immorally as is the norm for most people of the planet .



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky

They aren't suggesting that all Muslims support child-abuse.


No one is suggesting that all Muslims support child-abuse any more than anyone is suggesting that all priests support child-abuse.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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I'd agree that political correctness played a major part in the police handling of the Muslim gang case - as it has done in similar cases throughout the UK - but I'd suggest that in light of the Cyril Smith revelations it's a manifestation of a weak, incompetent and perhaps politicised police force that put's the interests of certain groups and individuals before victims who happen to come from a particular social group.

I wonder how Rochdale or Lancashire police would have handled things if the victims from either case had come from a more affluent background?

But perhaps that's a discussion for another thread?



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Anusuia


Obviously these creatures are hopefully the minority of the population , only because some of them fear to act immorally as is the norm for most people of the planet .



I'm afraid I do not agree with you on this point.

This is a cultural issue, and if a person is born and raised in a culture where females are regarded as inferior, dirty, and sexual objects, then what you, I, or the rest of the world consider moral or immoral is irrelevant.



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