Cancer Documentary: Cancer - The Forbidden Cures , page 1


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reply posted on 16-11-2012 @ 12:29 PM by VforVendettea
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My computer doesn't have sound, can you summarize the video?


reply posted on 16-11-2012 @ 10:00 PM by Urantia1111
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of course there's the possibility that i wouldn't find it, but i've watched conventional Western methods not only fail but absolutely destroy the patient. people who have been told they've probably had cancer for years and felt fine. a few rounds of chemo/radiation later and they're a withered dying skeleton. i'll take my chances with the holistic healers.


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 12:56 AM by troubleshooter
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I investigated this whole field when my partner was diagnosed with cancer. We decided to use medical diagnosis but avoid their treatments except for surgical biopsy.

She had an official seven year all clear over two years ago and remains cancer free.

Alternative treatments work but you will have to thoroughly research it and try things because no-one will help or recognise your success.
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reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 03:20 AM by woodwardjnr
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What about all the people western medicine has cured. There are many on here to testify to being saved by western medicine. Myself included. I can't say I've seen to many posters who have cured their cancers with alternatives. Just saying, after a little experience with fellow ats cancer survivors.


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 03:29 AM by troubleshooter
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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What about all the people western medicine has cured. There are many on here to testify to being saved by western medicine. Myself included. I can't say I've seen to many posters who have cured their cancers with alternatives. Just saying, after a little experience with fellow ats cancer survivors.

Try and find the long-term success studies ... good luck!


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 03:33 AM by woodwardjnr
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What do you determin long term?



reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 04:06 AM by woodwardjnr
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You make a very interesting point. At the moment I am going through chemo for a recurring brain tumour. Now I find it quite tolerable and relatively easy to deal with. However, I rely heavily on my family support to make the experience an easy a process as possible. I am also relatively young and healthy.

Now you could take someone with the same tumour, doing the same chemo, who without any support would really struggle with the whole regime.

So there are many factors that can effect success rates.

I actually use a few alternative treatments, but alongside the traditional western approach.


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 04:30 AM by Kandinsky
reply to post by woodwardjnr

Hiya Woody, I hope you kick its ass and recover swiftly. It looks like you're hitting it where it hurts and there's no harm in trying alternative approaches in tandem with conventional practices.

The things that work for us humans never ceases to surprise me. A couple of years ago I was reading the academic stuff on intercessory prayer and even that has worked for some people - quicker, better recoveries following major surgery.

Good luck and all the best


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 01:15 PM by drbatstein
This is an excellent story troubleshooter, thanks for sharing, I'm very pleased to here this

Originally posted by troubleshooter
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post by drbatstein


I investigated this whole field when my partner was diagnosed with cancer. We decided to use medical diagnosis but avoid their treatments except for surgical biopsy.

She had an official seven year all clear over two years ago and remains cancer free.

Alternative treatments work but you will have to thoroughly research it and try things because no-one will help or recognise your success.
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reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 02:55 PM by troubleshooter
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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What do you determin long term?

If you watch the documentary you will hear that anyone who is treated with conventional medical treatments will survive no longer than 3 to 5 years. See if you can find cohort studies for survival beyond this time frame,


reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 03:33 PM by troubleshooter
Originally posted by drbatstein
This is an excellent story troubleshooter, thanks for sharing, I'm very pleased to here this

Originally posted by troubleshooter
reply to
post by drbatstein


I investigated this whole field when my partner was diagnosed with cancer. We decided to use medical diagnosis but avoid their treatments except for surgical biopsy.

She had an official seven year all clear over two years ago and remains cancer free.

Alternative treatments work but you will have to thoroughly research it and try things because no-one will help or recognise your success.
edit on 17/11/12 by troubleshooter because: (no reason given)

I was twelve years in International Pharma, read the Oncology studies and sat in on their conferences. I knew the mode of action of approaches to treatment.

I had every confidence in their diagnostic tools to determine location, progression/regression of lesions, blood work imaging etc but no confidence in their approach to treatment. When confronted with a family member with a cancer diagnosis we walked the guantlet of availing ourselves of the medical diagbostic tools but worked through the alternative approaches to treatment.

We removed environmental pollutants like domestic chemicals and processed foods with additives. Were careful to provide complete nutrition by adding vitamin and mineral suppliments to fill any nutrition gaps and used natures herbs seeds. Some are reviewed in this documentary. We had one nagging blood result that remained high even after lesions had disappeared when we became aware of Dr Simoncini's work. The use of Bicarb and Iodine returned this last medical evidence of cancer to within the normal range.

My conclusion after this experience is that the use of medical diagnostic tools are necessary and surgical biopsy and selective removal of lesions useful but that chemotherapy agents and radiation only causes weakening of the immune system and cellular/tissue damage that in the medium term can make the condition worse.
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reply posted on 17-11-2012 @ 10:26 PM by Night Star
Originally posted by troubleshooter
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
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What do you determin long term?

If you watch the documentary you will hear that anyone who is treated with conventional medical treatments will survive no longer than 3 to 5 years. See if you can find cohort studies for survival beyond this time frame,



I know of one lady who remained cancer free for 20 years. True, there are many who have their cancers return, but many go on living for many years. Please understand that there are some members who just kicked cancers butt and others in the middle of fighting. Don't frighten people needlessly.
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