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Originally posted by bumpufirst
reply to post by NavyDoc
now you guys are talking out of your hearts,money!,the common language of a few. some of us value other things.i wonder if monsanto is hiring.you two are in line with the companys ideals.money,power, agendas and what ever else they can muster up to the ego. cause it aint about making more food for the world.look at the picture of that kid on diet. gramma spelling,?,o yes! comprehention,
Originally posted by Suohhen
reply to post by Alchemst7
Knowing the locations is not the problem. Being able to afford it is. For what i spend in a supermarket I can eat for a month. Spending the same amount in co-ops, health food stores and farmers markets, around two weeks. And I'm sure there are a lot of others sailing around in the same boat
Everyone would I'm sure, like to be able to eat better. they just don't have the budget to be able to do so.
I always wonder what are the people eating that run these huge farms using GMO's
Originally posted by VoidHawk
Originally posted by PsykoOps
How about an app that scans the code of the product and tells if it has gmo? Or does one excist already?
I've heard that idea mentioned before, problem is they'd keep changing the codes.
Originally posted by DarthOej
If this picks up steam, I predict the formation of the Grocery Store Safety Administration. Soon we will all be getting sexually violated by GSSA agents to make sure we don't have stickers, flyers, or other damaging material.edit on 16-11-2012 by DarthOej because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by bumpufirst
reply to post by NavyDoc
well if you were going around breaking into peoples homes robbing their stuff and the polise did nothing.yes ,that would be a good point to start at.letting people know who you are and were to find their stuff. "based on your comparisons". is that correct? just hysteria and no evidence? whats your proof of that?edit on 16-11-2012 by bumpufirst because: (no reason given)
Hard to read your post due to lack of grammar, punctuation, and spelling but I will give it a shot.
The anology fails because you have a choice to consume GMO foods or not. No one is forcing you to do anything.
Sorry, the way science works is that claims require evidence. The claims of GMO foods being deadly (apart from the unheathy nature of many of the products using them) are not proven nor have a rational scientific background. I've yet to see one of these GMO posts present any physiological reason how they could cause damage except...you know...they have "genetic and stuff" in the name.
Web MD has a rather reasoned approach to the subject:
www.webmd.com...
(Of course the answer will be that there is an AMA-big pharma-grey alien conspiracy to cover it up.
Originally posted by xxdaniel21
But OP, you're not taking this from an educated point of view. Your logic is "round the kids up, and get them to put stickers on anything and everything". And don't say "that's not what i said". That is very much what you said.
Kids have no idea, and to have them run around a grocery store for you, chucking stickers on everything is pretty low - because let's face it, they will chuck stickers on everything, and the fact that you're okay with that really shows a lack of sense on your part. You don't seem serious about solving the issue.
Reading this thread, i agree with some of the points - people shouldn't wait for manufacturers to tell them, but most of you guys are coming up with your own solutions that don't involve this method.
How about a sticker that labels HOW to identify a GMO-product? I saw a post regarding the numbering system. I never knew that? How many other people don't know yet, but would like to know?
That way you can literally chuck them on every product in the store and not have it misleading. That way no competitor (like another poster said) can sneakily misinform consumers.
That skull sticker on the original post... just makes me not want to take it seriously. People will just disregard it.
How about an educational sticker!? you know? rather than a confronting "don't buy this" sticker. WOW What an concept!edit on 16-11-2012 by xxdaniel21 because: (no reason given)
i don't believe such a sticker would be appropriate and certainly not attention grabbing.
Originally posted by tgidkp
reply to post by Honor93
how bout a sticker that reads "gmos are bad" with a .info website at the bottom? or even just "contains gmo" without the gnarly imagery.
that skull-and-crossbones is obvious propaganda. there is NO excuse for propaganda. rather than just giving the facts, you are giving an INTERPRETATION of the facts. you are ENCOURAGING people to not think for themselves.
fair enough, that's why is said no offense intended.
Originally posted by xxdaniel21
reply to post by Honor93
Well i'm not from your country and don't live under your system. So this was news to me.
because a few will learn and they will teach a few more and on down the line ... it's how MSG got removed from so many products (not enough but some and voluntarily by the manufacturers)
If they don't read the ingredients, then why bother teaching them?
why bother ? because some effort is better than none.
Better still, why bother chucking a sticker on the front if they aren't going to read? And if they are, do you really think they will take it seriously?
mostly cause i've never known a blind person to write in any language
But no, i was more referring to something as simple as instructions as opposed to "MAY CONTAIN GMO'S" in bold letters with a skull above it. And if they already know how the numbering system works, then refer to my above statement - why bother teaching the blind how to write in another language?
Originally posted by PsykoOps
How about an app that scans the code of the product and tells if it has gmo? Or does one excist already?
Originally posted by 1Learner
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by bumpufirst
reply to post by NavyDoc
well if you were going around breaking into peoples homes robbing their stuff and the polise did nothing.yes ,that would be a good point to start at.letting people know who you are and were to find their stuff. "based on your comparisons". is that correct? just hysteria and no evidence? whats your proof of that?edit on 16-11-2012 by bumpufirst because: (no reason given)
Hard to read your post due to lack of grammar, punctuation, and spelling but I will give it a shot.
The anology fails because you have a choice to consume GMO foods or not. No one is forcing you to do anything.
Sorry, the way science works is that claims require evidence. The claims of GMO foods being deadly (apart from the unheathy nature of many of the products using them) are not proven nor have a rational scientific background. I've yet to see one of these GMO posts present any physiological reason how they could cause damage except...you know...they have "genetic and stuff" in the name.
Web MD has a rather reasoned approach to the subject:
www.webmd.com...
(Of course the answer will be that there is an AMA-big pharma-grey alien conspiracy to cover it up.
I would like to believe that there exist variances of GMOs, typically the main ones (corn, soy, etc), that are modified to tolerate herbicide doses. GM fruits and vegetable that are herbicide-spray tolerant would probably be the worst in terms of health, think about it; the GM fruit/vegetable is made to survive high doses of herbicides, so the farmers mass-spray their fields thinking it will not affect the quantity of the harvest, yet disregarding the thinness of the crop's skin, thus allowing for herbicide to easily penetrate into the whole vegetable/fruit. When (or hopefully, if) the herbicide penetrates, there is no amount of washing away at the skin to remove it. Worse still, for the farmers who face "super weeds" that require extra herbicides, or even older, more toxic chem-compounds. Furthermore, some (if not all) herbicides get into the soil, leaving the root of the plant to absorb the chemical.
I have not even discussed the seemingly more biocidal pesticides...
Though, I'll give myself the benefit of the doubt by believing that no GM crops have been modified to resist pesticide sprays. I haven't researched it as of yet. As far as I know, the pesticide-to-GMO relation is limited to the crop only producing its own insect/pesticide so as to kill bugs.