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Originally posted by Thepump
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by NavyDoc
To answer your question, neither. The government should not have mandated anything on the employer. I'm surprised so many people think that if only the government mandates things, things happen without any cost or effort.
Great! So the restaurant owner should neither add the cost as an itemization, nor should he raise menu prices, because the government shouldn't have mandated the ACA in the first place.
M'kay, thanks for playing.
Nope, just pointnig out the TRUE underlying cause of the problem. Bitch about the restaurant owner all you want, but we all know who caused the problem in the first place. WIthout the government mandate, this would not even be an issue.
M'kay, thanks for playing.
The TRUE underlying cause is that not everybody can afford to see a doctor, Dr.
Like tens of millions of people, Dr.
So Bitch about the mandate all you want, but there wouldn't be a mandate if there wasn't a problem.
Originally posted by MidnightSunshine
reply to post by Raist
reply to post by Raist
I find it funny just how this thread is going. In this thread you see irony, hypocrites, and lovers of nanny state. It is like some cute jumbled up funny farm. That is why I am so happy the guy is doing this, it makes ATS more entertaining.
Originally posted by Legion2024
reply to post by Sissel
that is not telling you they are passing it on. At lest this guys is honest
Yes he is being honest, but he doesn't want his customers taking it out on him.... so he suggests that they compensate the extra tax on the bill with the amount they intend to tip.
So, from what I understand, the healthcare will be provided to the entire staff and not limited to the tipped employees.
It's just plain Shady.edit on 15-11-2012 by MidnightSunshine because: (no reason given)edit on 16-11-2012 by MidnightSunshine because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Thepump
Society pays for it anyways...
Originally posted by Thepump
Now its time for society to grow up and realize healthcare is a fundamental right.
Originally posted by Thepump
Then we can all pay for it, like roads, gas lines, telephone poles, Stealth Bombers and the MILITARY.
Unless you should grow up and fund your own military service and healthcare.
Originally posted by Thepump
Tell me, can you get an ear infection resolved without seeing your insurance broker?
Tell me what they do for you?
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by macman
Who owns the business?
Indigo5
More to the point is the is nature of the difference. Is a waiter or cook less deserving of getting treated for cancer than the business owner?
Originally posted by macman
If you were a server, and you should get cancer, that medical treatment is not my responsibility.
Neither is it yours if I get cancer.
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by Thepump
Tell me, can you get an ear infection resolved without seeing your insurance broker?
Tell me what they do for you?
That makes no sense.
Private insurance does not force you to first see a broker before you visit a doctor.
The following week, Health Care for America Now, a group supporting the Democrats’ health care reform bill, ran a television ad claiming that private health insurance companies: “Deny 1 out of 5 treatments prescribed by doctors.”
When fact-checked by PolitiFact.com, it turned out the statistic had been derived by the California Nurses Association, which broadened its definition of “denial” to include such administrative non-events as a claim having been sent to the wrong insurer. Such snafus occur behind the scenes, and the patient never knows about them because his/her claim is, in fact, subsequently paid by the correct insurer.
And the drumbeat goes on—
Every day in cities and towns across the United States, Americans with insurance are denied medically necessary care by a for-profit insurer. A treatment, test, medication or even a surgical procedure ordered by their physician is denied, all in the name of increasing the bottom line.
—surely leading inexorably to the conclusion that we must take action NOW to pass health care “reform”!
But, when you take the “profit” out of health care, what do you find?
According to the American Medical Association’s National Health Insurer Report Card for 2008, the government’s health plan, Medicare, denied medical claims at nearly double the average for private insurers: Medicare denied 6.85% of claims. The highest private insurance denier was Aetna @ 6.8%, followed by Anthem Blue Cross @ 3.44, with an average denial rate of medical claims by private insurers of 3.88%
Originally posted by zroth
Originally posted by macman
If you were a server, and you should get cancer, that medical treatment is not my responsibility.
Neither is it yours if I get cancer.
America cannot run around claiming to be a Judeo-Christian nation and ignore the basic biblical responsibilities to its brethren.
Divided we fall. This is proving true daily.