posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 01:15 AM
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
reply to post by elouina
You gave me the impression that you were all for Obamacare and free Obamaphones. Thus why you were defending both.
Because I provided you accurate information about when free cell phones were established I am for free cell phones? Wow. Okay. Secondly, the
healthcare act does not provide free insurance to employees. People who have no income have always had access to medical care ( Medicaid). So when you
hate what you call Obamacare you are against providing insurance for: employees who have no insurance, people with preexisting medical conditions and
college kids whose parents would have to pay for medical treatment out of their pockets. Finally, so that you are not confused of what I support here
it is. I believe that anyone working 40 hours a week in this country should have access to healthcare. There is no valid reason that a country as
innovative and prosperous as ours should deny medical care for it's working class. I do not hold contempt for anyone who is financially successful.
My belief is that everyone should share the costs to uplift our country not just the working class.When the financially comfortable demand sacrifices
from people who are already experiencing hardship yet do not make sacrifices themselves it is wrong and counter productive for the growth of a
Er um... you provided inaccurate information. I told you that fully paid cell phone service started in 2009. And provided you with a government
document that detailed this.
But I am glad that you pointed out that health care will not be free. Just wait until every able bodied person sees that they will be forced to pay
out of pocket. Even for those that qualify for employee sponsored insurance. Or how about this scenario... Say you work at a small pizza shop with
15 employees. They are exempt, so now you have to buy your own coverage or face a fine.
And if a taxpayer is forced to pay a single penny for Obamacare it is welfare. You do know that there will be government subsidies? If a person
makes up to 400% of the poverty level, their insurance will be subsidized by tax payers. Medicaid will now also include folks up to 130% of the
poverty level. So there will be additional people on medicare. Considering that Obama is racking up 1 trillion dollars in new debt every year, I
would like to see where this money is going to come from. His arse?
Oh but this gets even better. You know those supplies that drive up health care costs? And those expensive drugs? They are going to have new fees
and taxes to drive the costs up further.
But Obama does have some ideas for paying for this... Reducing Medicare! Medicare Advantage will be reduced by 200 billion dollars over 10 years.
So many more elderly will be forced to purchase medigap insurance. But hey, they make $800 dollars a month to live on. They can afford it! Another
way of paying for this is reducing Medicare home health care payments which will result in more folks requiring nursing homes or hospital care.
edit on 16-11-2012 by elouina because: (no reason given)