posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 12:50 AM
I haven't read this entire thread and I'm sure someone has already mentioned this, but what employer is actually going to foot the bill for Obama
care? They will pass the cost on to the customer unless their business model somehow precludes this possibility. You don't think they'll accept less
profit do you? I know the big corporations never accept that. They lay off workers, move operations over seas, raise prices, cut quality, cut
Like everything this falls on the consumer. It is mostly a paper work hassle for most employers.
But there is good in all the bad. Whether we agree with Obama or not, having everyone insured is not a bad thing. IMO universal healthcare isn't
inherantly bad. It works in most of the world (sure we can now cite the countries that execute it poorly as proof that it is bad). I had an aunt who
worked hard all her life and never took from the system. She got cancer and could no longer work so she lost her insurance. Sure, she had medicaid,
but medicaid won't cover enough of the cost of many high end treatments to make it available to working class people. She died having not even tried
treatments that may have saved her because she couldn't foot the tens of thousands of dollars that medicaid wouldn't pay. Say what you want, but the
medical system has a way of denying service to people who aren't profitable.
So too, as consumers we can forego much of this added expense since it will ultimately fall on our shoulders to pay. We simply consume less goods and
services. I doubt that'll hurt most of us since we already have more than most people on earth ever dream of. And, the idea of taxes occuring at the
consumer level rather than income or profit level is ideal I think. The rich consume the most and thus pay the most in consumption taxes (whether
that be direct or indirect taxation). It's a pay to play concept where those who don't play don't pay. I know income taxes will rise some. However,
I've personally looked over the changes brought about by Obama care and the oft cited $2k increase for the average family is a bit exagerated,
probably by political interests. In my household the increase is about $500/yr and is partially offset by certain new rules in Obamacare regarding
It may sound like I'm a huge fan of Obamacare. I'm not. I think it's a poorly crafted program that is inefficient. But, like I said there are some
good things to be found in it.