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Originally posted by Grimpachi
Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by Grimpachi
So you are saying that on a bill of $10 you would pay the server less because of $.50?
Again if 5% is going to be that hard on the person buying the meal they should stay at home to begin with. We are talking about a nickle for every dollar spent at a Denny's. This is not like some top dollar place. Their menu is around the same cost as any other fast food place.
Raist
Nope I never said that. I said I am not eating there. I will take my business somewhere else. Free market and all. Hopefully other people will as well and when business picks up in other restaurants they will hire more people. Free market at work. The server who decides to stay at a place that isn’t doing much business has made a poor choice of where to work in my opinion. I guess it could be a place to learn the ropes though.
See same money is being spent it is just being spent somewhere else. Try not reading into other people’s posts too much.
Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by Grimpachi
I was not reading into your post. You are posting in a thread about a guy charging 5% to cover a cost. You posted you are not eating there.
I simply said if it is a 5% charge keeping you from eating there you should stay at home. 5% causing anyone not to eat there is rediculous. I could care less who eats there or not. I don't eat Denny's so it does not affect me either way. My point was however that if the places I go to once a month did this it would not keep me from going there because 5% is nothing considering I am spending money I could save by eating at home.
If some cheap people here want to let 5% keep them from eating there that is their choice. But my opinion is if they are counting nickles that much they should stay at home. If they are doing it because of his statement that is fine too. Just have the balls to say you do not want to help cover the employees healthcare. That is all this guy is doing he is raising prices in his own way to cover the healthcare he is being forced to pay for.
We are all in this together and need to start helping each other. That is what this health care thing is about helping each other. One way or another we all pay for it, this guy is at least being upfront about it.
Raist
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Menu prices are based on far more that food costs. That may your professional expertise, but it's not the bottom line.
Prices are never, in good business practices, arbitrarily raised. Fuel costs, cost of living rises, food costs, insurance, etc. are all costs that are factored into the rising menu prices. Some things, if they are too costly are just taken off the menu completely.
I've seen it and explained to my regular customers many, many times.
Let me break it down for you.
Food cost: 25-29%
Labor: 10-12%
Debt: 30-35%
Management: 10-12%
Advertising: 8-10%
Profit margin: 8-10%
To maintain that food cost percentage every chef in the country charges about 4x what he pays for product.
One might think that humans would have evolved beyond the primal animal behavior of: "Survival of the Fittest" - - - in other words ME ME ME - - Screw You.
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by NOTurTypical
But technically, he isn't passing along to the customer. He's openly giving them the option out, by suggesting that the customer withhold a tip from the server.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by Grimpachi
I was not reading into your post. You are posting in a thread about a guy charging 5% to cover a cost. You posted you are not eating there.
I simply said if it is a 5% charge keeping you from eating there you should stay at home. 5% causing anyone not to eat there is rediculous. I could care less who eats there or not. I don't eat Denny's so it does not affect me either way. My point was however that if the places I go to once a month did this it would not keep me from going there because 5% is nothing considering I am spending money I could save by eating at home.
If some cheap people here want to let 5% keep them from eating there that is their choice. But my opinion is if they are counting nickles that much they should stay at home. If they are doing it because of his statement that is fine too. Just have the balls to say you do not want to help cover the employees healthcare. That is all this guy is doing he is raising prices in his own way to cover the healthcare he is being forced to pay for.
We are all in this together and need to start helping each other. That is what this health care thing is about helping each other. One way or another we all pay for it, this guy is at least being upfront about it.
Raist
See you are reading into things again. Nowhere did I say it was about saving money. I said the guy is an @ hole. If you support @ holes great for you as for myself if I don’t have to I will not.
If you think the guy is just being upfront I would have to disagree there. I think he is making a statement and if he is not trying to do so then it makes me wonder how he has stayed in business for this long because to most people that is how it looks. If he isn’t purposely being a @ hole then he is an idiot as far as presentation. Him being in the food industry he should understand how much presentation counts and just because it is a Denny’s is no excuse for not understanding basics.
As a customer I can voice my opinion of his business practices with my wallet I did the same with Starbucks over an issue and found a better coffee shop with great Costa Rican coffee.
Just so you do not have any misconception this is not about the cost it is about the principles something many people no longer have.