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Originally posted by elouina
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
Originally posted by Thepump
Giving everyone access to a doctor is not evil, it is right.
Murderers and POWs get better treatment
It certainly is not a right. You cannot force others to pay for your right. You cannot place someone (in this case a doctor) in servitude in order to fulfill this perceived "right"
If you truly believe this is a right, then you must also believe the government should provide firearms to every citizen as well correct?
Exactly! When forced to buy car insurance, who pays for it? Should we make this a right also? Hey everyone!!! Free phones, free car insurance and free medical insurance! Whoop!! Whoop!!!
Originally posted by Daedal
I recently accepted a promotion in management at a restaurant I won't name but, knowing beforehand about the ACA and it's possible side effects on regular crew members, was a defining reason I accepted the promotion, and this was about a month ago.
Today the GM told us that beginning next month the crew will be cut down to five people in the morning from the seven we are currently at, and also mentioned the cut back in work hours including no overtime.
The screws are tightening...
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
You must work for a small establishment. Most servers and bartenders tips are claimed based on sales. With most POS systems the server/bartender's sales generate the minimal amount the tipped employee will have to pay in income tax. The only tips they would be allowed to hide would be cash tips as credit card tips are already calculated.
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
are from the richest country in the world
have the strongest military in the world
are a Christian nation
and 10% of the population can die if they can not afford health insurance
Is that right?
Originally posted by Crakeur
It's a moronic tactic because there will be many people who won't eat at his restaurants as a result
Originally posted by Wildbob77
I live in California.
Before Obamacare, you could go to any county hospital and get treatment for free.
Maybe it will be better now but someone always has to pay.
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
Originally posted by elouina
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
Originally posted by Thepump
Giving everyone access to a doctor is not evil, it is right.
Murderers and POWs get better treatment
It certainly is not a right. You cannot force others to pay for your right. You cannot place someone (in this case a doctor) in servitude in order to fulfill this perceived "right"
If you truly believe this is a right, then you must also believe the government should provide firearms to every citizen as well correct?
Exactly! When forced to buy car insurance, who pays for it? Should we make this a right also? Hey everyone!!! Free phones, free car insurance and free medical insurance! Whoop!! Whoop!!!
So you are okay with saying that you:
are from the richest country in the world
have the strongest military in the world
are a Christian nation
and 10% of the population can die if they can not afford health insurance
Is that right?
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
No one is preventing them from getting health insurance.
Originally posted by elouina
If folks want socialism they can very easily move to a socialist country. Socialists pay nearly 40% of their income in taxes.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
When it's come to health (and health is more valuable than anything, really), it's prone to extortion. Then can charge you whatever they want. A surgery can cost more than entire life savings, and it's not an exceptional surgery of any kind, just a fairly common procedure. One poster quoted $380k for surgery his brother underwent, I have a friend who also was lucky to live in Canada, and his father got a transplant that would have cost him about same amount of money in the US. When it comes to simpler things it still costs a lot. A C-section will set you back $30k, I know because that was our bill. Is that normal? Why does a doctor bill $250 for a visit that take 15 min of his time?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
No one is preventing them from getting health insurance.
When it comes to simpler things it still costs a lot. A C-section will set you back $30k, I know because that was our bill. Is that normal? Why does a doctor bill $250 for a visit that take 15 min of his time?
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
Probably because that doctor came out of med school close to 100 grand in debt, pays out the ass for malpractice insurance that has gone up exponentially due to lawyers and a litigious society.
Ever think that might be a good place to start in finding out why doctors charge so much?
Originally posted by windword
You may think that you have enough cash stashed away to beat the system and stay off the grid. But you or a loved one may fall ill, and I can guarantee you, you don't have enough cash to cover a round of chemo, or a major surgery.
Originally posted by elouina
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
Originally posted by elouina
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
Originally posted by Thepump
Giving everyone access to a doctor is not evil, it is right.
Murderers and POWs get better treatment
It certainly is not a right. You cannot force others to pay for your right. You cannot place someone (in this case a doctor) in servitude in order to fulfill this perceived "right"
If you truly believe this is a right, then you must also believe the government should provide firearms to every citizen as well correct?
Exactly! When forced to buy car insurance, who pays for it? Should we make this a right also? Hey everyone!!! Free phones, free car insurance and free medical insurance! Whoop!! Whoop!!!
So you are okay with saying that you:
are from the richest country in the world
have the strongest military in the world
are a Christian nation
and 10% of the population can die if they can not afford health insurance
Is that right?
There is a right way, and there is a right time for everything. You don't take a country that is tittering on economic collapse and add more strain. Instead of rushing it through, this needed much more thought. Perhaps a panel of educated citizens from all strains of life could have been created. Accountants, attorneys, teachers etc... Then an analysis would have to be performed on the impact of their idea. If problematic, then go back and adjust things a bit. We are talking multiple years of effort. Once it was completed, then it would be placed on ballot for the US citizens to vote on. Since it is against our constitution.
But still, this is a capitalistic country. If folks want socialism they can very easily move to a socialist country. Socialists pay nearly 40% of their income in taxes.edit on 15-11-2012 by elouina because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
Originally posted by FreebirdGirl
You must work for a small establishment. Most servers and bartenders tips are claimed based on sales. With most POS systems the server/bartender's sales generate the minimal amount the tipped employee will have to pay in income tax. The only tips they would be allowed to hide would be cash tips as credit card tips are already calculated.
Not small, but not huge either. Slow nights average around 1k in sales, busy nights between 3-4k. Super busy nights we will top 5k.
Here is a metaphor....
What does a computer hacker do? They study a system, find the weakness, exploit it to their advantage.
Study the tax code (system), especially in regards to tips(weakness), pay no income tax (exploitation).
It would be extremely naive to think every server, bartender, etc etc is paying all taxes they "should" be, even in regards to 8% of sales.edit on 15-11-2012 by TheAngryFarm because: (trade secrets deleted)edit on 15-11-2012 by TheAngryFarm because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
Originally posted by windword
You may think that you have enough cash stashed away to beat the system and stay off the grid. But you or a loved one may fall ill, and I can guarantee you, you don't have enough cash to cover a round of chemo, or a major surgery.
I have health insurance that I pay for. Never said I didnt.
18 years in the industry, 15 of them as a bartender, not once have I ever came across any place and/or tipped employee being audited.
In the grand scheme of things, the IRS has much bigger fish to go after instead of expending who knows how many tens of thousands of dollars to find out a few servers didnt pay a few hundo in taxes.
In terms of bars, it is one of the easiest businesses to keep money off the books as well if the owner so chooses
Originally posted by MrDesolate
What's the big deal? His business, his decision. People can frequent the establishment, or not. Let the market speak. Isn't that's how it's supposed to work?
He could also raise his prices 5% across the board, but he's using his establishment to make a statement. Nobody has to patronize him, nobody has to work for him. If it's a bonehead move, he'll suffer. I've got no problem with that.