Originally posted by Toadmund
I have always argued the same point.
God fearing people are greedy, they will help you because that to them is their ticket to heaven.
Sometimes I think it's laughable how they think they are so pious, but really it's saving your own butt so one can be favoured by god and to mock
those who were'nt religious enough and didn't make it.
An atheist that is kind is the purest form of kindness there is.
Religious people, holier than thou.
How about the advantage of writing ego-driven threads written by man, proclaiming themselves as holding a "true" form of morality, of a higher quality
than those who sudy morality and ethics all the time via their religion?
Pretty divisive for starters, and not at all accurate.
A complete and utter generalization on the greedy part there, and the straw man you made of "us", or those who believe, does not actually back me into
a "victim" role as you would hope. Rather, it's invalidated by it's general lack of facts, and can be safely ignored.
Likewise I'm sorry to hear you think this holds any weight at all. Is this really how it appears to you? Reread this statement ...
"Sometimes I think it's laughable how they think they are so pious, but really it's saving your own butt so one can be favoured by god and to mock
those who were'nt religious enough and didn't make it".
This is a bad misconception. First, there are strong reasons not to want to "mock" or "gloat over" anyone, worked right into Christianity, worked into
the religions of the world. This is not an advocated trait, in fact it is characterized as a hallmark of UN-Godly behaviour. Go ahead and blame wo/men
for falling short of their professed ideals, but don't go blaming the religion. The instructions were fine.
Here's the catch. What you are trying to mis-portray as "brown-nosing" or "kissing butt" is actually genuine affection, for the God we love, and know
to be real. We're not going to tow rope to your delusions about us. They make little enough sense to start, are full of baseless accusations, and
filled with egotistical comparasions. They don't spark even a match to the truth as we've seen it. It's your own life, go enjoy it your own side of
the fence, and don't pretend to have any control over what I believe. Among the ones who needs to consider themselves superior to others are the
athiests, with their Becoming God/Goddess delusions. You can't get much more proud, arrogant, narcissistic, narcoleptic, or cold than believing you
are on your way to becoming "a god" ... silly athiests.
I agree that many an outspoken athiest thinks they have a monopoly on "true morality", it seems that as soon a someone tries to seek it through any
path they disagree with, they get very contentious.
edit on 15-11-2012 by Northwarden because: (no reason given)