posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 01:41 PM
reply to post by PerfectAnomoly
You do know that a lot of scientific "knowledge" is based on statistics. Take the efficacy of many pharmaceutical products. The double blind tests
that are done are often gathering statistical evidence of the invented medications' effectiveness.
That being said, I do have my differences with what was discussed in the video. For instance, I believe that it isn't random changes that cause
evolution, but changes that are a feedback mechanism from the organisms that change.
What I see a lot of people who try to debunk the idea that there is a God, is that they cling to the belief that extreme orders of intelligence can
occur from random origins. So, perhaps we are destined to agree to disagree.
As to your idea that the universe is only 4000 years old, according to scripture - it really depends on who you talk to.
Threads that discuss a lot of what we are debating here today exist all over the place. And there are many views on the understanding of scripture.
The creationist view as a view of what scripture was saying was something that my research on scripture has debunked. Here is the post I made in
another one of these threads discussing scripture:
Originally posted by sensibleSenseless
Sorry if I am repeating others' views. Haven't had time to view the entire thread. You might count me as another vote for what I am about to say.
I believe that the reason for the books of creation is to explain the concept of "God" to people of the time, and that it is a story that purposely
circumvented the theory of evolution so as to demonstrate the concept in terms that people of the time could understand. It was not, IMHO, a book
written to expose the chronological order of events of the time.
I'm not sure how many people believe that the bible disproves the theory of evolution. Creationist theories may be popular, but I don't count the fact
that it is popular as meaning that it is right.
Take a comparison of the first two chapters of the bible:
(BTW: the word "day" is translated from the original word "Yom", which means time period - so I am going to use the word time period in running my
God made the first vegetation on the planet on the second day/time period.
God made sea creatures and birds on the fourth day/time period.
On the fifth day/time period, God made the animals and human beings.
The second chapter:
This time period - according to the second chapter - occurred as God was creating the earth.
God made man prior to making wild bushes and wild plants. (Just the wild ones).
God made man and then created the wild animals and all the birds of heaven - to give man a companion.
Clearly, according to the second chapter all the birds were made to give man a companion. Yet, the first chapter puts the event of bird making prior
to the arrival of man.
The first chapter says God created heaven and earth in the beginning. Then it goes on to say there was a divine wind blowing over the waters.
Now, the actual act of creating heaven occurred on the second day and the earth was a formless void (until it was created on the third day). So, the
previous paragraph wasn't necessarily meant to be a chronologically ordered description.
The earth was created on the third day. So, an earth day is not necessarily implied in the days described earlier.
On the fourth day (according to the first chapter) - is when God set the two lights in the sky - one to govern the day and the other to govern the
night and to indicate the passing of days, and to divide light from darkness.
Yet, the same idea appears on the first day - he created light and separated it from darkness, calling the light "day" and the darkness "night". (in
Additionally, we now know the earth is round and this is how "our" days and nights are caused. So, it would likely be that the human day and night
would have been created after the earth had been created.
Yet, the first chapter describes evening and morning for every single day... evenings and mornings occur because the earth is spinning on its axis...
and that too only if you were located at one point on earth would you have a 24 hour day - the northern most point on the north pole only sees a 6
month day and a 6 month night. (Same thing in Finland).
What does this all mean? Can't say.
It does say in the second chapter that God fashioned man from the soil of the ground - but it would be true if you summarize evolution as well.
So, I can't say that it disproves evolution, neither can I say it proves it.
So you see: Those who hold a creationist view of scripture aren't holding a valid argument IMHO.
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