Increasing wireless network speed by 1000%, by replacing packets with algebra, page


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Topic started on 15-11-2012 @ 02:40 AM by XPLodER
this is cool, ever get really bad connections from wifi?
this could remove some of your stress,

A team of researchers from MIT, Caltech, Harvard, and other universities in Europe, have devised a way of boosting the performance of wireless networks by up to 10 times — without increasing transmission power, adding more base stations, or using more wireless spectrum. This is expected to have huge repercussions on the performance of LTE and WiFi networks.

In essence, the innovation — called coded TCP — makes packet loss completely disappear


www.extremetech.com...

the packet loss is reduced and the missing packets dont hold up everyone,
its pretty cool, by using virtual software the packets are chained together and coded with algebra,
and any missing packets data can be "accounted" for without submitting a request for a resend.

how cool would it be if hot spots were super fast and all it took was a software download

To be honest, these improvements aren’t all that surprising. TCP was designed for wired networks, where lost packets are generally a sign of congestion. Wireless networks are in desperate need for forward error correction (FEC), and that’s exactly what coded TCP provides.





anything that speeds up content with no change in gear is all good


xploder
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reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 03:25 AM by Grimmley
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That will be interesting to see if they implement something like this. It would be nice to see tech increase in speed while still running under the bandwith. Now are they going be interesting if they did, will companies charge more for speed increase even though they are still using the same bandwith?

Grim


reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 03:44 AM by Raelsatu
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You should take a look at new fiber-optic network tech developed by Bangor University scientist. They've boosted bandwidth speeds to at-least 20Gbps, which is 2000 times faster than the average UK bandwidth connection.

Bangor University Scientists Boost Fibre Speeds To 20Gbps


reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 04:03 AM by amraks
Originally posted by Raelsatu
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You should take a look at new fiber-optic network tech developed by Bangor University scientist. They've boosted bandwidth speeds to at-least 20Gbps, which is 2000 times faster than the average UK bandwidth connection.

Bangor University Scientists Boost Fibre Speeds To 20Gbps


They will do this on the back hauls I reckon. same with this wireless software. could be a good back up/temporary gateway at peak times.

I know where I am in Tasmania we suffer from bandwidth problem even know we have 2 fiber cables.
There cheaper way would be use wireless over to the mainland.
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reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 04:05 AM by XPLodER
Originally posted by Grimmley
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post by XPLodER



That will be interesting to see if they implement something like this. It would be nice to see tech increase in speed while still running under the bandwith. Now are they going be interesting if they did, will companies charge more for speed increase even though they are still using the same bandwith?

Grim


the isps in my country charge by data cap, so i guess it would use less "data" and be faster,
ie stream a movie in high quality instead of lower rates using the same amount of data overall,

or sound streamed at higher quality ect.


the "spectrum crunch" will be less of a problem and low latency would be easy to achieve.
so if anything it should reduce the cost as this will lower overall demand (less resent packets)
but people would use more data because you can download faster, so.............
would make a great gamer network

xploder
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reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 04:20 AM by amraks
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I should of stated thats what our government would use it for instead of running more cables.


reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 04:31 AM by Raelsatu
Originally posted by amraks
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post by Raelsatu



I should of stated thats what our government would use it for instead of running more cables.


So you're saying that only the government will use the high-speed cables & that people will use the wi-fi upgrade?

OFDM, a method for encoding digital data, has the advantage that it is already widely used in other settings. OOFDM technology could be used to offer faster speeds over currently installed fibre networks, making it more cost-effective than systems which would involve modifying the encoding and decoding hardware or the fibre-optic cables themselves, and according to the university.


Apparently no new cabling needs to be run for these 20gbps speeds, and it cost about the same as current internet pricing. I think the only thing that will need to be distributed is the transceiver/receiver modules. Anyway, broadband speeds will naturally continue to rise as the demand does. Eventually people will have insane bandwidth to accommodate the metaverse, interactive virtual reality, & massive multiplayer platforms -- among other facets.



reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 04:54 AM by XPLodER
Originally posted by Raelsatu
Originally posted by amraks

They will do this on the back hauls I reckon. same with this wireless software. could be a good back up/temporary gateway at peak times.


What do you mean? You think this will only be a backup? As far as I can tell they plan on implementing this into the network infrastructure so that the average user will have these speeds.

Have you seen the other tech that allows for 2.5 tbps speeds using "twisted light"?

"Twisted Light" Paves the Way for Ultra-Fast Internet


very interesting ideas, and would be very useful for future space networks ect.
the physics behind it is very cool to,

Orbital angular momentum, when applied to fiber-optic and potentially wi-fi data streams, takes the principle of splitting different streams to different polarizations and alters it so that rather than having different polarizations, the data streams are "twisted" together, packed in more tightly, and can therefore carry more stuff. "The idea is not to create light waves wiggling in different directions but rather with different amounts of twist, like screws with different numbers of threads," says the BBC.


www.escapistmagazine.com...

from your link
this would only apply to "optical" networks and devices,
and sounds like an excellent advancement more better service over the same hardware





xploder


reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 06:47 AM by amraks
reply to post by Raelsatu



I was implying with our new NBN in Australia the link from tas to mainland is only via fiber cable.

They will use wireless tech to overcome this, when they reach maxim capacity for bandwidth on that fiber.
should save them the cost of the 2 more fiber cables we are currently using.


reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 03:02 PM by XPLodER
Originally posted by Cauliflower
A fiber link would be nice, probably with my next hardware upgrade. A quick check for current fiber service pricing seems to indicate that the providers are still building infrastructure and not in a competitive pricing war yet.


i would expect that most providers will offer more data and faster speeds at the same price, we may see "unlimited" make a comeback

Companies like Comcast and Verizon FIOS will eventually cause an extinction level event for everything except last mile mobile device users but who knows when?


you still require the physical hardware infrastructure to support the "last mile" providers.

This wireless algo doesn't change the peak bandwidth just improves speed in areas that previously had poor reception doesn't it?


nothing can help when you have "poor reception" no signal conditions and low signal conditions can not be "overcome" by this transport, the efficiency comes when lost packets dont slow down processing,
you still require "most" of the packets to arrive in some semblance of order, and it does take time to "account" for lost packets, but it can be done at the decoder end for very little overhead, and in short spaces of time.




in a hotel or coffie shop or train or lossy network you would see vast improvements,
where as at home by yourself it would only yeild very small increases in throughput.

this is designed for "end to end" transport, and takes into account the differences in wired and wireless networks by changing the normal behaviour of tcp/ip to be "more tolerant of loss" over the wireless network conditions

it is good we have multiple advances across wire, wireless, fibre and WIFI.
and most of it is cross comparable with existing infrastructure,
this should yield increased quality across the whole network,
even people on dailup could use a similar forward facing error correction system (in theory) and see improvements in throughput.

xploder


reply posted on 22-11-2012 @ 11:16 PM by XPLodER
reply to post by explorer14



here is the mit pdf, for nc tcp/ip
www.mit.edu...

We briefly note the overhead associated with network coding. The main overhead associated with network coding can
be considered in two parts: 1) the coding vector (or coeffi-
cients) that has to be included in the header; 2) the encoding/decoding complexity. For receiver to decode a network
coded packet, the packet needs to indicate the coding coeffi-
cients used to generate the linear combination of the original
data packets. The overhead associated with the coefficients
depend on the field size used for coding as well as the number
of original packets combined. It has been shown that even
a very small field size of F256 (i.e. 8 bits = 1 byte per coef-
ficient) can provide a good performance [11, 19]. Therefore,
even if we combine 50 original packets, the coding coeffi-
cients amount to 50 bytes over all. Note that a packet is
typically around 1500 bytes. Therefore, the overhead associated with coding vector is not substantial.


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