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How does a city of 200,000 people go bankrupt? In the case of San Bernardino, CA, the answer is unsustainable pension obligations pushed by union-backed politicians.
San Bernardino declared bankruptcy in July, citing "an immediate cash flow issue," but the collapse has been a long time coming and was not the result of a single decision or mistake. Elected officials consistently chose to offer public-sector unions overly-generous benefits, both in terms of salaries and pensions, even as the tax base of the city was shrinking.
Between 1997 and 2010, the salary of a city firefighter doubled to just shy of $150,000. ............
How Public Unions Bankrupted San Bernardino, CA
Originally posted by liejunkie01
It is easy to blame the employee.
I blame the politicians. They probably had some secret back door deal that would grant over payment of benefits and wages.
There is no way in hell a firefighter should male 150,000 a year with full benefits
I appreciate everything they do but 3,000 a week is ridiculous.
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
Originally posted by liejunkie01
It is easy to blame the employee.
I blame the politicians. They probably had some secret back door deal that would grant over payment of benefits and wages.
There is no way in hell a firefighter should male 150,000 a year with full benefits
I appreciate everything they do but 3,000 a week is ridiculous.
How much would it cost for you to risk your life daily?
If less than $3000 a week to do so and be on call 24/7, move here and save us some money.
Originally posted by liejunkie01
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
Originally posted by liejunkie01
It is easy to blame the employee.
I blame the politicians. They probably had some secret back door deal that would grant over payment of benefits and wages.
There is no way in hell a firefighter should male 150,000 a year with full benefits
I appreciate everything they do but 3,000 a week is ridiculous.
How much would it cost for you to risk your life daily?
If less than $3000 a week to do so and be on call 24/7, move here and save us some money.
I work with heights. I risked( currently laid off) falling daily. You risk your life every time you drive, or get in a vehicle.
Our firefighters make on average about 50 to $60,000 a year.
A firefighter does not work every single hour of the shift you know. Yeah some days are busy, other days are pretty boring for them. I know i work with a volunteer firefighter.
So please don't gibmve me the " how much would you risk your life fir speech", people work a lot more deadly occupations and get paid squat. My father is a logger. You know how much he makes? $14.00 an hour. They ate one of the most deadly jobs put there.
Try standing on the edge of a roof thirty to flurry feet up hanging gutter with no safety equipment. I do it for $18.00 an hour. How about a pitched roof that you cannot even stand on.
edit on 15-11-2012 by liejunkie01 because: (no reason given)
In August 2010, San Bernardino's city manager Charles McNeely gave a presentation in which he warned of a looming $40 million deficit if something didn't change. He claims he told the council the finances were "a train wreck."