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Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’ to Minorities and Young Voters

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posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Romney lost because the crap he spewed wasn't as convincing as Obama's crap that is why he lost in America people love crap because is not more choices of it..




posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Wow even after the election Romney is still regurgitating the same BS far right talking point.

The vast majority of Obama supporters did not vote for him because they wanted a hand out. You have to be completely ignorant and full of the conservative kool-aid to believe that garbage.

They voted for Obama because Romney is a transparent corporatist who ironically wanted all the so called "hand outs" to go to the rich and his corporate cronies.

He lost because he is more fake than a hollywood blonde, and despite what he thinks, Americans are pretty smart and we can sniff out bull# better than he can spew it. He was a joke to his own peers during the primaries and he is still a joke now.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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What about the millions like me?
Neither black, nor Hispanic nor young? I never recived any 'fee stuff'.

I guess if I lost the popular vote by more than 3 million and the electoral by over a hundred, that I would be upset too.

Still though, stop blaming minorities and start realizing that America doesn't want extremism. It is your lying and your party's extremism, Mitt.

Thank goodness this man is nowhere near the White House. We would have gone full on depression with that man in charge.


 
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posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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Then explain to me why "land or property owners" are the only ones with a "stake in this game?"

When the federal government is forced to cut back on aid to the states, guess how the states make up the shortfall in revenues? They raise their property tax rates, that's how. This is why you should cringe every time you hear a politician say that as many services as possible should be returned to the states. They're talking about returning the responsibility to fix the problems, not the resources to get it done. That's on you.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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Obama received 62,610,717 votes.

That is nowhere near a majority of Americans.

Intellectual honesty counts, especially if you are trying to make some sort of point.

Did it ever occur to you that businesses are hoarding cash due to uncertainty in regards to future Obama taxes and economic policy? If you owned a business (it's obvious you do not now), why would you invest in your business when the foreseeable future includes higher taxes and a president that isnt friendly to business?



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Romney lost because he and the leadership of the GOP failed to see that America has fundamentally changed.

The era of my race and sex running the show is over. Romney/Rove/etc., still believed there were enough white men out there who could tip the scales in their favor. That simply was not the case.

America is much more diverse than they expected, and voter turnout for Romney was much weaker than it was for McCain in '08.

Forget 'hand outs'. Forget all this liberal/conservative garbage. Forget rich vs. poor.

Obama beat Romney because more Americans (not me) thought he was the better man for the job and cared about them more than the other guy.

Simple as that. No need for Romney to whine about it. What's done, is done.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Rule by "the landed gentry" is Feudalism, especially when you rig the game so that fewer people can earn enough to own, making them serf's to those who manipulate the system to their own advantage.
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posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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I said those who pay income taxes and those who own land are the only ones with a stake in the game.

Landowners have a vested interest in the health and well being of both their community and the country at large for one simple reason: Economic outlook.

Naturally those who actually pay income taxes should be the ones who have a say in how their money is spent.

Lets use the well known Obama phone degenerate as an example....name one simple reason why that creature SHOULD be allowed to vote. It's obvious she is poor, doesnt care what happens one way or another as long as she gets her "free" phone. Lets hear one good reason why she should have a say in how other peoples money is spent.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
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Yes, because calling me a "communist" isn't a 60 year old trick to misdirect the trolls, right?

Here's what I know: America is 12th in the world for Entrepreneurs, according to Forbes, released today, behind New Zealand. Denmark, Hong Kong, Singapore, Canada, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Finland, The United Kingdom, and Australia. Most of those countries lean much further to the left than we do.

For example: Every single one has socialized medicine.

So you can take your Senator Joe McCarthy and stick it, because I never called for central control over the means of production. I called for a return to the tax rates of the 1990's.

You know -- back when the country was solvent and the economy was strong.


Not bad, considering that we used to be first!
But, you know... the more socialist we become, the further we drop. Don't worry though. I'm sure there's no correlation between government interference and entrepreneurial ranking.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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Yeah, ok. That is why voter turnout for both sides were SO High....

Oh wait, the voter turnout was lower then 2008.

Yeah, such on overwhelming mandate.


It's common knowledge that the bigger the turn-out, the bigger the GOP loses and the GOP did everything in their power to initiate voter suppression drives across this nation, yet it was not enough.

Despite all the voter suppression tactics, in a year when the GOP along with every right wing media source, was so sure that they would win the presidency in a landslide and that they would keep the House and win back the Senate, look at what happened.

In the real world, President Obama was re-elected, (becoming the fourth POTUS in U.S. history to be elected twice with over 50% of the vote) and the democrats picked up seats in both the House & Senate. Go figure!

Furthermore, if you think that romping felt bad, just wait until after the 2014 mid-terms and see how much of your TP/GOP ideology is left in Congress. It's over, either wake up or get left behind.
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posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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Poor stupid little mittens. Looks like he's too stupid to understand there are more poor people in America than rich. He whines about gifts given by Obama what about the gifts he would have given?



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
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I said those who pay income taxes and those who own land are the only ones with a stake in the game.

Landowners have a vested interest in the health and well being of both their community and the country at large for one simple reason: Economic outlook.

Naturally those who actually pay income taxes should be the ones who have a say in how their money is spent.

Lets use the well known Obama phone degenerate as an example....name one simple reason why that creature SHOULD be allowed to vote. It's obvious she is poor, doesnt care what happens one way or another as long as she gets her "free" phone. Lets hear one good reason why she should have a say in how other peoples money is spent.


Because "money" isn't the only issue at hand here. I know that for a lot of people, their entire world is only about money and how much of it the can get their hands on, but in reality it's far less important than people.

Some other issues that may affect the woman in question might be; Having clean air to breath and clean water to drink or access to affordable health care. Or how about global warming? Who knows, she may even be interested in equal pay for equal work or equal rights for the LGBT community. There could be a whole host of reasons that she may be affected by the election and is therefor entitled to a vote, just like everyone else.

People are more important than money and corporations are not people. Until such time as the GOP comes to this realization, their influence in american politics is sure to wane.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by xEphon
Wow even after the election Romney is still regurgitating the same BS far right talking point.

The vast majority of Obama supporters did not vote for him because they wanted a hand out. You have to be completely ignorant and full of the conservative kool-aid to believe that garbage.

They voted for Obama because Romney is a transparent corporatist who ironically wanted all the so called "hand outs" to go to the rich and his corporate cronies.

He lost because he is more fake than a hollywood blonde, and despite what he thinks, Americans are pretty smart and we can sniff out bull# better than he can spew it. He was a joke to his own peers during the primaries and he is still a joke now.


Obama is PROVEN to be one of the greatest corporatists in history (GM, for example) yet Romney is blamed to be one when he was never in office to execute corporatism.

Voting against someone because of what you fear (never happened) instead of against someone that actually did (reality) what you fear makes no sense.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Flatfish
It's common knowledge that the bigger the turn-out, the bigger the GOP loses and the GOP did everything in their power to initiate voter suppression drives across this nation, yet it was not enough.

Despite all the voter suppression tactics, in a year when the GOP along with every right wing media source, was so sure that they would win the presidency in a landslide and that they would keep the House and win back the Senate, look at what happened.

In the real world, President Obama was re-elected, (becoming the fourth POTUS in U.S. history to be elected twice with over 50% of the vote) and the democrats picked up seats in both the House & Senate. Go figure!

Furthermore, if you think that romping felt bad, just wait until after the 2014 mid-terms and see how much of your TP/GOP ideology is left in Congress. It's over, either wake up or get left behind.


I'll add to this by pointing out that Democrat voter turnout was significantly lower than in 2008 and the Republican base was "charged"; yet, with all of that, they still could not pull off a win.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Sure sure, because voter suppression was only against Dem Voters

Sure sure.


And we shall see for 2014.


It still was not a landslide by any means.
0bama had fewer people voting for him this year then in 2008.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Yet 0bama's sole focus is the Govt taking MONEY from the wealthiest of people to give to those that don't.


He is a HUGE redistributionist.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Because she is a US citizen. That's the beginning and the end of this conversation. Our founding fathers created this country in a way that let everyone have a voice. But hey let's ignore that. Let's take the vote away from people like stay-at-home moms, the large number of unemployed vets, and retirees. You know what? While we're at it, since the wealthy have to pay more in taxes they should probably get a greater say in how that money is spent. So we should probably just have their vote count multiple times. Yeah, I'm pretty sure when the founding fathers created a democratic republic they actually meant to create an oligarchy.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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You know why we used to be first, right?

Part of the reason was because the rest of the world was busy rebuilding their sewers, roads and bridges after WW2. We were one of the only counties in the first world whose manufacturing base wasn't spread all over the ground in tiny little pieces. But lets not let "history" stand in the way of a good rant.

I did notice that you couldn't explain how people who are compelled to vote by law, and who operate under a "socialist" safety-net (OMG -- Market socialism!) are somehow more FREE and attractive to business people than we are. Do you believe American entrepreneurs are frustrated by their inability to create better roadside bombs? Is that why the patriot act is so scary to them?

Or could it be that a consumer and worker base of free people aren't worried that cancer will eat up their life savings and cost them their home are somehow better employees and partners in creating actual wealth and progress?



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by UberL33t
 


Romney lost because the crap he spewed wasn't as convincing as Obama's crap that is why he lost in America people love crap because is not more choices of it..



I already said that!



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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Our founding fathers created this country in a way that let everyone have a voice. But hey let's ignore that.


Clearly you do not know American history. The fact you think we are a democratic republic is proof of that. We are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC

Do you actually think everyone had a voice when this country was founded?

The Constitutional amendments that do pertain to voting only specify why people cannot be prevented from voting. There are clearly ways around that. The right to vote is not limitless, even today convicted felons and those dishonorably discharged from the military cannot vote.

Read up on history sweetie

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