Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’ to Minorities and Young Voters, page 4

reply to post by UberL33t

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Romney lost because the crap he spewed wasn't as convincing as Obama's crap that is why he lost in America people love crap because is not more choices of it..

reply to post by TheAngryFarm

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Then explain to me why "land or property owners" are the only ones with a "stake in this game?"

When the federal government is forced to cut back on aid to the states, guess how the states make up the shortfall in revenues? They raise their property tax rates, that's how. This is why you should cringe every time you hear a politician say that as many services as possible should be returned to the states. They're talking about returning the responsibility to fix the problems, not the resources to get it done. That's on you.

reply to post by Flatfish

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Obama received 62,610,717 votes.

That is nowhere near a majority of Americans.

Intellectual honesty counts, especially if you are trying to make some sort of point.

Did it ever occur to you that businesses are hoarding cash due to uncertainty in regards to future Obama taxes and economic policy? If you owned a business (it's obvious you do not now), why would you invest in your business when the foreseeable future includes higher taxes and a president that isnt friendly to business?

reply to post by Flatfish

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I said those who pay income taxes and those who own land are the only ones with a stake in the game.

Landowners have a vested interest in the health and well being of both their community and the country at large for one simple reason: Economic outlook.

Naturally those who actually pay income taxes should be the ones who have a say in how their money is spent.

Lets use the well known Obama phone degenerate as an example....name one simple reason why that creature SHOULD be allowed to vote. It's obvious she is poor, doesnt care what happens one way or another as long as she gets her "free" phone. Lets hear one good reason why she should have a say in how other peoples money is spent.

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by kozmo

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Yes, because calling me a "communist" isn't a 60 year old trick to misdirect the trolls, right?

Here's what I know: America is 12th in the world for Entrepreneurs, according to Forbes, released today, behind New Zealand. Denmark, Hong Kong, Singapore, Canada, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Finland, The United Kingdom, and Australia. Most of those countries lean much further to the left than we do.

For example: Every single one has socialized medicine.

So you can take your Senator Joe McCarthy and stick it, because I never called for central control over the means of production. I called for a return to the tax rates of the 1990's.

You know -- back when the country was solvent and the economy was strong.

Not bad, considering that we used to be first! But, you know... the more socialist we become, the further we drop. Don't worry though. I'm sure there's no correlation between government interference and entrepreneurial ranking.

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Flatfish

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Yeah, ok. That is why voter turnout for both sides were SO High....

Oh wait, the voter turnout was lower then 2008.

Yeah, such on overwhelming mandate.

It's common knowledge that the bigger the turn-out, the bigger the GOP loses and the GOP did everything in their power to initiate voter suppression drives across this nation, yet it was not enough.

Despite all the voter suppression tactics, in a year when the GOP along with every right wing media source, was so sure that they would win the presidency in a landslide and that they would keep the House and win back the Senate, look at what happened.

In the real world, President Obama was re-elected, (becoming the fourth POTUS in U.S. history to be elected twice with over 50% of the vote) and the democrats picked up seats in both the House & Senate. Go figure!

Furthermore, if you think that romping felt bad, just wait until after the 2014 mid-terms and see how much of your TP/GOP ideology is left in Congress. It's over, either wake up or get left behind.

Originally posted by TheAngryFarm
reply to post by Flatfish

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I said those who pay income taxes and those who own land are the only ones with a stake in the game.

Landowners have a vested interest in the health and well being of both their community and the country at large for one simple reason: Economic outlook.

Naturally those who actually pay income taxes should be the ones who have a say in how their money is spent.

Lets use the well known Obama phone degenerate as an example....name one simple reason why that creature SHOULD be allowed to vote. It's obvious she is poor, doesnt care what happens one way or another as long as she gets her "free" phone. Lets hear one good reason why she should have a say in how other peoples money is spent.

Because "money" isn't the only issue at hand here. I know that for a lot of people, their entire world is only about money and how much of it the can get their hands on, but in reality it's far less important than people.

Some other issues that may affect the woman in question might be; Having clean air to breath and clean water to drink or access to affordable health care. Or how about global warming? Who knows, she may even be interested in equal pay for equal work or equal rights for the LGBT community. There could be a whole host of reasons that she may be affected by the election and is therefor entitled to a vote, just like everyone else.

People are more important than money and corporations are not people. Until such time as the GOP comes to this realization, their influence in american politics is sure to wane.

reply to post by Flatfish

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Sure sure, because voter suppression was only against Dem Voters
Sure sure.


And we shall see for 2014.


It still was not a landslide by any means.
0bama had fewer people voting for him this year then in 2008.

reply to post by Flatfish

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Yet 0bama's sole focus is the Govt taking MONEY from the wealthiest of people to give to those that don't.


He is a HUGE redistributionist.

reply to post by TheAngryFarm

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Because she is a US citizen. That's the beginning and the end of this conversation. Our founding fathers created this country in a way that let everyone have a voice. But hey let's ignore that. Let's take the vote away from people like stay-at-home moms, the large number of unemployed vets, and retirees. You know what? While we're at it, since the wealthy have to pay more in taxes they should probably get a greater say in how that money is spent. So we should probably just have their vote count multiple times. Yeah, I'm pretty sure when the founding fathers created a democratic republic they actually meant to create an oligarchy.

reply to post by kozmo

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You know why we used to be first, right?

Part of the reason was because the rest of the world was busy rebuilding their sewers, roads and bridges after WW2. We were one of the only counties in the first world whose manufacturing base wasn't spread all over the ground in tiny little pieces. But lets not let "history" stand in the way of a good rant.

I did notice that you couldn't explain how people who are compelled to vote by law, and who operate under a "socialist" safety-net (OMG -- Market socialism!) are somehow more FREE and attractive to business people than we are. Do you believe American entrepreneurs are frustrated by their inability to create better roadside bombs? Is that why the patriot act is so scary to them?

Or could it be that a consumer and worker base of free people aren't worried that cancer will eat up their life savings and cost them their home are somehow better employees and partners in creating actual wealth and progress?

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by UberL33t

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Romney lost because the crap he spewed wasn't as convincing as Obama's crap that is why he lost in America people love crap because is not more choices of it..

I already said that!

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by TheAngryFarm

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Our founding fathers created this country in a way that let everyone have a voice. But hey let's ignore that.

Clearly you do not know American history. The fact you think we are a democratic republic is proof of that. We are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC

Do you actually think everyone had a voice when this country was founded?

The Constitutional amendments that do pertain to voting only specify why people cannot be prevented from voting. There are clearly ways around that. The right to vote is not limitless, even today convicted felons and those dishonorably discharged from the military cannot vote.

Read up on history sweetie

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