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posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by IAmD1
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Things only matter if you decide they do. That is the point and if you believe there is a natural law that determines that things matters it is most probably Ego-sense being very convinced it knows something. Words have power but only power in the way in which we believe they do.


Example.

A person was told all their life they were a failure. When ever the use the word failure it is directly related to an experience and feeling they have about themselves. For this person changing the word they use to describe not reaching their goal might change how the world is viewed through the ego sense and open up to new sensations and experience. Reinforcing/continually using the word failure might for this person reinforce that what ever they take on will not succeed. However for another person who have never associated with the word failure, it might simply not affect them at all using it.

Since this is a thread about Ego it is fairly obvious to see when a discussion reaches the state yours have that there are two strong ego's involved and neither one are willing to take a leap of faith to see where it lands. Have you considered that both of you may be correct and it is just a matter of where you stand when you look at the problem that differs here? In either case what purpose does getting upset serve in a conversation in a thread with a stranger online? Does it really matter what the other writer believes, or are you simply trying to stroke your ego-sense and prove to yourself that what it believes is right?

Wonders what would happen with this conversation if both took the view and argued for the others point for a moment with the same passion as you argue your own points. Might some learning about the ego occur?


Much love to both.


I think I understand what you are trying to say. Like "screwed" said, being called a fat a** doesn't bother me because I'm simply not fat. Consider the source, they say.
YES, I was just thinking about that yesterday, how two different people with different perspectives can both be correct.
I didn't get upset, I don't know what kind of intonation people choose to attach to my words when they read them.
IF it doesn't really matter to you what other people believe, then why come to me, why does it matter what I believe? Did you think I would be more receptive than "screwed" that you'd speak concerning his opinions that don't "really matter" or did you want me to get back in line and shut up, honestly, I believe it's the latter.
And I do think that "screwed" does have a point, though everyone here might recant if I suggest that what the thread is basically about is biblical, but I've always been against the fact that some people aren't sure what it means to be humble with regard to their own life. You see, my opinions are mine, but that doesn't mean that I should be greedy with them, so when people think that having humility means unnecessesarily calling themselves "screwed" or something to that effect, memory serves me that the bible says to love your neighbor as yourself, and this verse has been twisted to mean, "love your neighbor more than you love yourself", everyone first, then you.....BUT even the word love has been twisted too. People take love to mean that we'll walk on eggshells on tip toes so as not to offend anyone, that is NOT biblical at all and yet the world pretends it's read and understood and tested out the bible and found it to be trash, well, people just don't want to know that the bible calls SOME people worthless, wonder why? It couldn't be for lack of vocal chords. And what good is freedom of speech anyway when the morality police trys to reason you into thinking it's oh so wise to be a mute.




posted on Dec, 20 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Wonders

Originally posted by IAmD1
reply to post by Wonders
 


Things only matter if you decide they do. That is the point and if you believe there is a natural law that determines that things matters it is most probably Ego-sense being very convinced it knows something. Words have power but only power in the way in which we believe they do.


.......

Wonders what would happen with this conversation if both took the view and argued for the others point for a moment with the same passion as you argue your own points. Might some learning about the ego occur?


Much love to both.


I think I understand what you are trying to say. Like "screwed" said, being called a fat a** doesn't bother me because I'm simply not fat. Consider the source, they say.
YES, I was just thinking about that yesterday, how two different people with different perspectives can both be correct.
I didn't get upset, I don't know what kind of intonation people choose to attach to my words when they read them.
IF it doesn't really matter to you what other people believe, then why come to me, why does it matter what I believe? Did you think I would be more receptive than "screwed" that you'd speak concerning his opinions that don't "really matter" or did you want me to get back in line and shut up, honestly, I believe it's the latter.
And I do think that "screwed" does have a point, though everyone here might recant if I suggest that what the thread is basically about is biblical, but I've always been against the fact that some people aren't sure what it means to be humble with regard to their own life. You see, my opinions are mine, but that doesn't mean that I should be greedy with them, so when people think that having humility means unnecessesarily calling themselves "screwed" or something to that effect, memory serves me that the bible says to love your neighbor as yourself, and this verse has been twisted to mean, "love your neighbor more than you love yourself", everyone first, then you.....BUT even the word love has been twisted too. People take love to mean that we'll walk on eggshells on tip toes so as not to offend anyone, that is NOT biblical at all and yet the world pretends it's read and understood and tested out the bible and found it to be trash, well, people just don't want to know that the bible calls SOME people worthless, wonder why? It couldn't be for lack of vocal chords. And what good is freedom of speech anyway when the morality police trys to reason you into thinking it's oh so wise to be a mute.


Are these questions directed at me in response to what I wrote or are they just in general? I am not sure I follow.
I simply stated my observation of your conversation directed at neither or both and added my thoughts on my perception of the direction your discussion was taking.

Love is an entirely different topic all together although one could say it is also the only topic, again it depends on where you are looking at the question from. All is always as it is supposed to be and within the only context it can be. However my point was that learning takes place when we step out of our ego sense of right and into the point of view of our perceived opposition. Whether we come out of that experience more or less convinced that our original perception was correct or not is not relevant but what is is the whole experience of taking an opposing point of view frees us from the chains of Ego and propels us into the world of possibilities.

Since the original topic of the thread was Ego I thought my perceptions might be relevant under this context.

much love



posted on Dec, 20 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by dominicus
You're an [SNIP]. Be aware of the minds reaction.

You're an Idiot. Be aware of the minds reaction.

You're pathetic, useless, scumbags, waste of humans. Be aware of the minds reaction.



Yes, we are. But being human is trying to be more than that. It's to be beautiful, imaginative, greater, and not a waste.

I don't believe in the existence of "ego"... I'm a scientist. I think what you would call "ego" is simply the presence of defence mechanism and definition of oneself. A sometimes necessary set of mechanism without which one would have no self-respect or confidence.



posted on Dec, 21 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by IAmD1

Originally posted by Wonders

Originally posted by IAmD1
reply to post by Wonders
 


Things only matter if you decide they do. That is the point and if you believe there is a natural law that determines that things matters it is most probably Ego-sense being very convinced it knows something. Words have power but only power in the way in which we believe they do.


.......

Wonders what would happen with this conversation if both took the view and argued for the others point for a moment with the same passion as you argue your own points. Might some learning about the ego occur?


Much love to both.


I think I understand what you are trying to say. Like "screwed" said, being called a fat a** doesn't bother me because I'm simply not fat. Consider the source, they say.
YES, I was just thinking about that yesterday, how two different people with different perspectives can both be correct.
I didn't get upset, I don't know what kind of intonation people choose to attach to my words when they read them.
IF it doesn't really matter to you what other people believe, then why come to me, why does it matter what I believe? Did you think I would be more receptive than "screwed" that you'd speak concerning his opinions that don't "really matter" or did you want me to get back in line and shut up, honestly, I believe it's the latter.
And I do think that "screwed" does have a point, though everyone here might recant if I suggest that what the thread is basically about is biblical, but I've always been against the fact that some people aren't sure what it means to be humble with regard to their own life. You see, my opinions are mine, but that doesn't mean that I should be greedy with them, so when people think that having humility means unnecessesarily calling themselves "screwed" or something to that effect, memory serves me that the bible says to love your neighbor as yourself, and this verse has been twisted to mean, "love your neighbor more than you love yourself", everyone first, then you.....BUT even the word love has been twisted too. People take love to mean that we'll walk on eggshells on tip toes so as not to offend anyone, that is NOT biblical at all and yet the world pretends it's read and understood and tested out the bible and found it to be trash, well, people just don't want to know that the bible calls SOME people worthless, wonder why? It couldn't be for lack of vocal chords. And what good is freedom of speech anyway when the morality police trys to reason you into thinking it's oh so wise to be a mute.


Are these questions directed at me in response to what I wrote or are they just in general? I am not sure I follow.
I simply stated my observation of your conversation directed at neither or both and added my thoughts on my perception of the direction your discussion was taking.

Love is an entirely different topic all together although one could say it is also the only topic, again it depends on where you are looking at the question from. All is always as it is supposed to be and within the only context it can be. However my point was that learning takes place when we step out of our ego sense of right and into the point of view of our perceived opposition. Whether we come out of that experience more or less convinced that our original perception was correct or not is not relevant but what is is the whole experience of taking an opposing point of view frees us from the chains of Ego and propels us into the world of possibilities.

Since the original topic of the thread was Ego I thought my perceptions might be relevant under this context.

much love

"Does it really matter what the other writer believes, or are you simply trying to stroke your ego-sense and prove to yourself that what it believes is right?"

Do you normally ask people questions like this or only those you feel superior to?



posted on Dec, 21 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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I don't believe in the existence of "ego"... I'm a scientist. I think what you would call "ego" is simply the presence of defence mechanism and definition of oneself. A sometimes necessary set of mechanism without which one would have no self-respect or confidence.

Doesn't matter that you don't believe in something because if that something exists, it does not rely on a whether or not someone believes it or not.

The problem may be that your a scientist. When in reality, a somewhat deeper comprehension of psychology is required for not only grasping the point of this thread, but even for you to become aware of your own ego. Understanding various philosophical concepts also helps



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Or maybe the ego exists only because you believe in it. Meaning, it's a mythological entity. An attempt to explain things we can't comprehend fully. A human simplification of more complex thinking processes.



posted on Dec, 24 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Well then phase II would be sorting things out. Not every strong reaction within is bad ego. I often act for the sake of others anyway and calm my ego with the understanding that you just cant reach some people.

edit on 24-12-2012 by Logarock because: n



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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I ask the same questions of everyone and I really have no sense of inferiority or superiority towards anyone or thing with regards to philosophical discussions. Everyone and thing has it's purpose and place within existence. There is no difference between me or you or the other persons or beings when looking at the bigger picture. We are all reflections of being and we are all teachers and students of our own existence.

But for the sakes of this discussion my expression of existence has a certain set of experiences and learnings that have all lead to the above understanding at the moment of writing. They are not solid beliefs nor are they shared for any other reason than to be food for thought. If another expression of existence feel my thoughts are useful to their own growth so be it, if they are not they are free to disregard them. I really have no other motivation for sharing than that.

much love



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by IAmD1
reply to post by Wonders
 


I ask the same questions of everyone and I really have no sense of inferiority or superiority towards anyone or thing with regards to philosophical discussions. Everyone and thing has it's purpose and place within existence. There is no difference between me or you or the other persons or beings when looking at the bigger picture. We are all reflections of being and we are all teachers and students of our own existence.

But for the sakes of this discussion my expression of existence has a certain set of experiences and learnings that have all lead to the above understanding at the moment of writing. They are not solid beliefs nor are they shared for any other reason than to be food for thought. If another expression of existence feel my thoughts are useful to their own growth so be it, if they are not they are free to disregard them. I really have no other motivation for sharing than that.

much love

You and I ARE different, don't let your "ego-sense" be blinded now. Anything can be food for thought, that doesn't make it worth knowing. "Expression of existence"....wow, thankfully I AM free to disregard, no permission necessary. You're a strange expression of existence, just food for thought, no other motivation than that.



posted on Dec, 25 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Wonders

Originally posted by IAmD1
reply to post by Wonders
 


I ask the same questions of everyone and I really have no sense of inferiority or superiority towards anyone or thing with regards to philosophical discussions. Everyone and thing has it's purpose and place within existence. There is no difference between me or you or the other persons or beings when looking at the bigger picture. We are all reflections of being and we are all teachers and students of our own existence.

But for the sakes of this discussion my expression of existence has a certain set of experiences and learnings that have all lead to the above understanding at the moment of writing. They are not solid beliefs nor are they shared for any other reason than to be food for thought. If another expression of existence feel my thoughts are useful to their own growth so be it, if they are not they are free to disregard them. I really have no other motivation for sharing than that.

much love

You and I ARE different, don't let your "ego-sense" be blinded now. Anything can be food for thought, that doesn't make it worth knowing. "Expression of existence"....wow, thankfully I AM free to disregard, no permission necessary. You're a strange expression of existence, just food for thought, no other motivation than that.


Thank you





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