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Hamas says now in 'open war' with Israel, promises 'gates of hell'

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posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by maloy

Originally posted by pheonix358
Iran has it's operatives studying the Israel missile defense shield. That is what they are doing right now. Every time Israel shoots down a Hamas missile they jump up and sing "And another one bites the dust".


Israel uses Iron Dome to shot down the Grad-based rockets from Gaza. Whatever Iran might want to launch at Israel is completely different, and would not go up against Iron Dome but something else. Just as there are short/middle/long range missiles, there are different categories on anti-missile defense to deal with them. Iron Dome is not mean to intercept long-range ballistic missiles re-entring the atmosphere at terminal velocity. Last time Israel had to intercept something like that was back in the 90's.




Originally posted by pheonix358
Iranian missiles lock onto targets and they hit hard!


Yeah, that is what missiles usually tend to do. When they work. Israel's and US's missiles work pretty good, but I can't vouch for Iran's.


You are making a lot of assumptions. Iran has had decades to make their own missiles. This situation was forced on them by the US blockade. Now the west has no real idea of what Iran can or can't do.

Hamas is throwing 'missiles' at Israel. This is a joke statement. I would not call them missiles. More like unguided rockets with grenades in them.

One of the primary rules of warfare - know your enemy.

Yes, Israel knows Hamas, they know what most of their neighbors have. They can look the weapon up in Janes world of weapons. I bet they can't look up Iranian weapons as easily.

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posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by thePharaoh

i didnt say that

palastine is occupied

isreal is an occupier


telling the occupied they are wrong .....is wrong


Bin Laden attacked the US because in his mind the US was "occupying" the holy land, which he is apparantly a subject of. So US can't tell Bin Laden he is wrong, because US is occupying him.

Am I right?

Let's forget history for a moment, you certainly did at least - but can you at least look up the definition of "occupy".



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by thePharaoh


BTW - all of palastinain "rockets" land in occupied land...ie palastine


Hmmm.......


THE QUR'AN SAYS:

"To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the Israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: 'Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.' 'You know full well,' he [Moses] replied, 'that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.'" "Pharoah sought to scare them [the Israelites] out of the land [of Israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]." "We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Muhammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning." [Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104]


THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ALLAH GAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THE JEWS AND WILL RESTORE THEM TO IT AT THE END OF DAYS

Is this true?



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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This is why there are so many Islamic people trying to demonize Israel at this time . Have you not noticed a flood of Muslims on this site ?



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Yep who says anyone has to pick a side?

Tho i have for obvious reasoning



Hamas wanting isreal gone the iranian support of Hamas and Isreal standing in the way of the Persian empire once more.

The aid of Assad the deals with Iraq, and Egypt the motivation between the Palestine and Isreali conflict is about land and who wants it.

But they never look at the real people behind the scenes seeking their power grab.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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This is why there are so many Islamic people trying to demonize Israel at this time . Have you not noticed a flood of Muslims on this site ?
Just Curious..
How can you tell who is a Muslim?



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Ask the 'occupy movement' how well protests work. Government representatives don't speak for the people anymore. They decide for the people. Protests mean nothing to those in power, just gives the little people some way to make themselves feel like they are making a difference.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Two of the Protests are from within your world
Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. mondoweiss.net...
Things that make you go HMM


Wait a second? Israel is my world? I live in Russia, where people mostly protest the cold weather, shortage of vodka, and the fact that we can't stop being called communists.

But apparently you somehow got inside my world and altered it! GET OUT YOU DEMON!



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Regardless of blame and recrimination, I just want the killing to stop. In my eyes this is such a waste of life, time, and energy. Forgive me if I offend those who truly believe the conflict is worthwhile on either side. It just fills me with sorrow to see human beings killing one another. I hope there will one day be peace.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
Some time ago Israel uncovered a plot to have Hamas start trouble and when Israel retaliated to blame Israel for the conflict and get public opinion against them . Then Hezbollah will join the fight and Syria 2 days latter . This is a tactic that Islam uses like when they set up a rocket position beside a childrens nursery and fired it at Israel . They herded the children into that facility and kept them there to be a propaganda tool . reply to post by neo96
 
I wonder will this conflict reunite Syria against their hated enemy . Brother against brother , Brothers against Israel is their saying .
In my opinion the war of Gog and Magog has just started .



Brother agianst brother have been fighting for centuries in the middle east.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
[ In my opinion the war of Gog and Magog has just started .



God, I hope not...



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by morethanyou


And you would think that after the last spanking that seen the demise of 1400 of those rats that they would just stop shooting rockets.

spanking???....isreal couldnt get into gaza city..which is why they resorted to illegal weapons
they couldnt protect their tanks....and couldnt manouvre them

as for calling them rats....yea for treating jews as brothers...then i agree they are rats



But no. Just to dumb, probably one of the most ignorant uneducated thick headed dummies on earth, once they are ALL gone, the world will be a better place.


who palastinian farmers

or jewish banking cartels, lobbys,their strangel hold on industry in every form

but lets blame farmers



Sweep the area, take the weapons, kill anyone who does not want to give it over. Then blockade the place to stop more arms coming in.


funny thats what egypt, iran, turkey and syria want as well



Or alternatively just kill em all. Who wants the palis anyhow? does anyone? scum.


i think you will find that the whole ME, asia and 3/4 pf the world wan the palastinains back on their land

the rest of you have a vested interest...which is why you dont care who believes your BS



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by AceWombat04
Regardless of blame and recrimination, I just want the killing to stop. In my eyes this is such a waste of life, time, and energy. Forgive me if I offend those who truly believe the conflict is worthwhile on either side. It just fills me with sorrow to see human beings killing one another. I hope there will one day be peace.


That is my wish, and probobly 99% of the Worlds also.

Well said.






posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by maloy

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Nice to see the Worlds watching, and doesnt agree with Israel.


Speak for your own world. From my perspective the world agrees with me!

Who cares if a small minority is protesting. Someone is always protesting something somewhere, just as someone is always offended at something. The people who make the world go around tend to be more pragmatic and care about their business at hand and things they can directly influence.

Everytime Israel does something, or perhaps doesn't do something, someone is going to protest and call it names. Damned if you do, damned if you don't... Hell, if Israel is just there, in existance, someone is going to protest. Does that have any impact of Israel, Israelis, or Palestinians being caught up in this conflict? Nope.

Israel's leadership will go about its business, which is protecting its constituents. The "world" can watch and piss itself in tantalizing agony for all Israel cares.
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You sound like hitler. Do you harbor ill feelings for the holocaust or what? Hitler said the same thing when he went on a rampage killing millions in europe. Get a hold of yourself, stop insulting people and please change your avatar...because you are disgracing socialism with so much vile hatred/racism.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by pheonix358
[They can look the weapon up in Janes world of weapons. I bet they can't look up Iranian weapons as easily.


And according to you Israel's military intelligence gathering is limited to a nerd using google search to find out what Iran is cooking?



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Excellent Find .

So the Quran says God gave the land to Israel and would bring them back .



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Have you seen pics of Iran's military machines? They don't exactly instill fear in anyone. In fact, their gunships look like armored jet-skis and their destroyers look like something from WWI. When I think about Iran, the movie 'the dictator' comes to mind



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by lambs to lions
reply to post by Tw0Sides
 


Ask the 'occupy movement' how well protests work. Government representatives don't speak for the people anymore. They decide for the people. Protests mean nothing to those in power, just gives the little people some way to make themselves feel like they are making a difference.
I agree with your post entirely.
But at least they will Speak Out, until other Options are Offered.
Although it will be Hard to Label Protesters of every Nationality as Anti_semite.
Im sure that will be the Approach taken.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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You people expect Israel to sit there and be bombarded with rockets and do nothing about it? Hamas is a terror organization nothing more. I don't love Isreal but they have every right to defend themselves.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by AceWombat04
I hope there will one day be peace.


There certainly will be. When you die. Thus anyway you look at it, conflict only works to bring about peace quicker!



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