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Do states even have a right to secede anymore? The answer, according to arguably the most respected conservative Justice of the United States Supreme Court, is an unequivocal “no.”
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I am afraid I cannot be of much help with your problem, principally because I cannot imagine that such a question could ever reach the Supreme Court. To begin with, the answer is clear. If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, “one Nation, indivisible.”) Secondly, I find it difficult to envision who the parties to this lawsuit might be. Is the State suing the United States for a declaratory judgment? But the United States cannot be sued without its consent, and it has not consented to this sort of suit.
I am sure that poetic license can overcome all that — but you do not need legal advice for that. Good luck with your screenplay.
In accepting original jurisdiction, the court ruled that Texas had remained a state ever since it first joined the Union, despite its joining the Confederate States of America and its being under military rule at the time of the decision in the case. In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were "absolutely null"
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
"Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
"I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness"
"The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them."
Originally posted by kozmo
I also have the right to:
1.) Freedom of speech and opinion
2.) The right to bear arms
3.) Demand of my government a redress of grievances
4.) The right to privacy and the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures
5.) The right of Habeus Corpus
So, clearly you can see I have a great number of rights. Sadly, Odumbass doesn't really care as he has seen fit to diminish my capacity to exercise those rights throughout his tenure as puppet... er, president!
Rather than run away so the liberals can have their Communist utopia, I have decided to stay here and fight for the country as it was intended by our Founding Fathers.
By the same token... you also have the right to get the hell out! See? I can play too!
Originally posted by resoe26
Anyone know the laws of Spain concerning immigrants?
Originally posted by Tazkven
Originally posted by resoe26
Anyone know the laws of Spain concerning immigrants?
I was actually researching that after you asked but got side tracked by a webpage showing pictures of the Spanish volleyball team. All I can say is ... good choice
Originally posted by Tazkven
reply to post by resoe26
I think that is what ganjoa was talking about, some type of work visa or something to live in a place and not apply for citizenship and still be a U.S. citizen, I know very little of the subject to be honest but he seems to know more about it then I.
I have never left the country and most likely never will, all my family was here as far back as I can research we fought for the South in the Civil War and lost records do to court house's being set on fire in Tennessee and the other half are Native American.
Originally posted by kozmo
reply to post by Tazkven
Taz...
Originally posted by kozmo
ETA: Did I just see a Supreme Court Justice cite the Pledge of Allegiance as documentary proof of the absence of a state's right to leave the union??? I'm sorry... I simply can't recall the Pledge of Allegiance being legal precedent. I think I might have just uncovered something else wrong with this country - The SCOTUS doesn't even understand case law!