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Originally posted by craigandrew
Query.
Were the H crew aware of how serious thier battle damage was?
Why recover to Andersen AFB, Guam when the B-52 forward base at Diago Garcia in the Indian Ocean was closer?
Was there some difficulty or limitation in making for the closer base.
I also recall that a B-1B Lancer was lost of the Afghanistan mission in 2002.
Not combat according to reports but a catastrophic systems failure.
They recovered to DG and ejected in a SAR zone offshore. Indicates they were worried about jamming up the runway with a pile up.
[edit on 13-11-2004 by craigandrew]
Originally posted by SonofSpy
Somebody correct me if Im wrong but as far as I know there still isnt another bomber anywhere that is as versatile and that can fly as high and carry so many bombs! There are bombers as big but they still dont have anywhere near the capability that BUFF does. These things are some of the biggest planes in the world. We have plenty of retired buffs rusting away in boneyards. They are more than big enough to build small apartments in. Why not? Weve got to be creative in order to hack away at Ws enormous debts!
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Uhh, out of curiosity, if an aircraft is all metal and wires, and can be dismantaled and put back together due to universal parts, how can an aircraft be sent to repair bay, and determined to be terminally internally not repairable??
It's all metal and wires, can anyone shed some light on how an aircraft can be damaged beyond repair?(And I don't mean totaled aircraft, I mean aircraft that manage to fly to one base in disrepair, and then to another, and be declared virtually unrepairable?)
Shattered OUT...
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Uhh, out of curiosity, if an aircraft is all metal and wires, and can be dismantaled and put back together due to universal parts, how can an aircraft be sent to repair bay, and determined to be terminally internally not repairable??
Originally posted by FredT
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Uhh, out of curiosity, if an aircraft is all metal and wires, and can be dismantaled and put back together due to universal parts, how can an aircraft be sent to repair bay, and determined to be terminally internally not repairable??
Aircraft are rated in hours of flight not really years. so a plane that has low hours will last alot longer. Also differnt parts of the airframe will have longer or shorter fatigue life. Wing skins often require replacement as well as wing root structures. Also stress cracks and the like play a part. In commerical planes they look at flight hours as well as presurization cycles as that also has an impact on metal fatigue.
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
[Doesn't really answer my question, justs gives fun facts.
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Wow, this thread was back in November, well better late then never I suppose.
Uhh, out of curiosity, if an aircraft is all metal and wires, and can be dismantaled and put back together due to universal parts, how can an aircraft be sent to repair bay, and determined to be terminally internally not repairable??
Shattered OUT...
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Doesn't really answer my question, justs gives fun facts. But still interesting facts nonetheless, Ouizel hit it straight on, I was thinking about the cost before, but then figured "But wait... if it costs a certain amount to build an aircraft from scratch, how can it cost more to repair internal damage?"
Shattered OUT...
[edit on 10-3-2005 by ShatteredSkies]
Originally posted by KyleChemist
As it stands, neither the B-1 or B-2 meet the B-52 in terms of range and payload.
the B-52 will be around for some time. Probably even after 2044. The only replacement I have heard off was the B-3, hypersonic blah, blah, and thats mostly pipe dreams.
originally posted by: ug87
The B-52 will be in service until 2044 and beyond if for no other reason than to say that it has been the oldest combat capable aircraft.
The B-52 can carry more precision munitions than the others can and will be able to carry all of the newest weapons with continued upgrades. (All aircraft are being constantly upgraded.)
On a side note, my dad(a B-52 tailgunner from 72 to 81) saw his friends BUFF take a Sam to the open Bomb Bay. There were 17 B-52's lost in Vietnam, 15 to enemy action, two to a midair collision over Hanoi.
[edit on 14-3-2005 by ug87]