Originally posted by Godrric
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
The first time states tried to secede, there were slaves they wanted to keep in slavery due to their racial prejudices.
Now, we have states again wanting to secede, and we have a black POTUS.
I guess racisim and hatred just never die....
Regardless of what they may say, we know the REAL reason they're doing this and it's the same reason it was last time.
Your post angered me so much, I had to create an ATS account. This bile you're spewing is just a way to shutdown other's argument, without
substance. You do not read what people say as to the reasons for their issues with the Federal Government - you simply jump to racism as the
immediate answer. A simple understanding of history would illustrate that secession has been batted around since the War of 1812 - and in that case,
it was by the New England states no less.
I bet you patted yourself on the back for voting for a black man. Ever heard of projection? See? It can go both ways. How about keep race out of
issues until it is brought up and keep debates intellectually honest. kthnx
Well bless your lil heart.
I could say the same to you. What you posted is your opinion, what I posted is my opinion. I happen to live in one of the states in question and I
know exactly what the reason is. There are a lot of closed minded, bigoted people who are upset that there's a black man in the oval office.
You can deny it until the cows come home, but it's blatantly apparent here. I did vote for Obama this time, but I didn't vote for him last time when
the only reason anyone WAS voting for him was because he was black. He angered me over the way he treated Hillary, who should have been the rightful
POTUS. However, now he IS the POTUS, whether you agree or don't agree.
Much has changed since the original incidents of states seceding. In the first go around, many did it for reasons not at all related to slavery,
however, others did it for the soul purpose of keeping slavery, mostly the later seceding ones. For them, it was based on bigotry then and 99% of the
ones doing it now are based in bigotry.
If the country was in the exact same position or worse (worse like it was under dubya), they wouldn't be screaming to secede. They are doing this
because there is a democratic president who happens to be black. They are racist bigots who didn't get their way so now they want to take their ball
and go home.
It is childish and ignorant. They need to grow up, put on their big boy pants and uphold their responsibilites as a nation instead of crying and
whining. If we can live through 8 years of bush/cheney, we can live through anything. The economy has been improving since bush tanked it.
Unemployment is going down since bush tanked it. Things are finally coming back together. It took bush and the republicans 8 years to make the mess,
it's going to take 8 years to clean it up.
If they want to secede, fine, but in less than 6 months, they'll be whining and crying to come back because they can't handle it on their own. It's
a different world now than it was in 1861. We are no longer a conglomeration of states that make up a nation. We are a nation that consists of several
states. There's a big difference whether small minds can realize it or not.
If Texas wants to be added to the list of third world countries, it's well on its way. Perhaps with them out of the way, the republican party won't
be able to block any and all legislation to help rebuild the nation.
Would you like to keep the platter that has been handed to you or do you plan to return it?