Originally posted by zedVSzardoz
The problem as I see it is that civilians have no clue as to what military life is like (myself included for the time being)
We think we can make sound JUDGEMENTS on people we barely understand. We say the military is not representative of the country, WELL,
JOIN. Make it representative of you and do your best to get into command. Make the "good" calls you say they don't. Sacrifice for complete
strangers and place yourself second. Try it.
While military life is not for everyone, I see plenty of able bodied people who actually need it. They need to step out of themselves and every single
vile thing they heard about the military from frustrated and angry people that force people to parrot their words for a cracker based reward system of
"belonging". If they spent more time improving themselves personally instead of reading inflammatory literature from miserable people, like a 50
shades of gray for people addicted to masturbating their egos, we would not have such a divide between civilians and their military.
We are all one people, and our military is part of this country, as citizens, neighbors, and brothers. We should not fuel a divide between them and
us. We should not encourage discord and bad blood as if their motives in life are any different than ours. To set yourself apart from your own
community members is to be part of a problem. Any failure in communication and understanding originates then in your initial step to separate yourself
from a fellow American based on his profession.
So, instead of talking out of a perceived knowledge of the military you read somewhere or heard from someone who read it somewhere, JOIN and see for
yourself. Make it better and improve it. Make it representative of the population you say is so different. If not stop making discord over your hatred
of fellow Americans or your frustration with the fact that we as a species have ALWAYS had war and warriors.
so, keep the peace, and give your brothers in arms a break. They are just you with a uniform on for fraks sake.
Your greatest effort with people should always be to reach deeper understanding, not to judge from what you understand already.
edit on 17-11-2012 by zedVSzardoz because: (no reason given)
I don't have to be a murderer to judge murderers. I don't have to be a pedophile to judge pedophiles. I don't have to be a thief to judge thieves.
In no way am I saying military folks are murderers, pedophiles, or thieves, I'm illustrating that your statement about not being able to judge them
because you aren't one doesn't make any sense.
At this point in time nobody in the military is there against their will. They all knew what they were getting into, what would be expected of
Nobody can honestly, with a straight face, say that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are in any way protecting my freedoms, or the freedoms of my
countrymen. Nobody can say they are making me safer, if anything our actions in the middle east are making the US LESS safe, as it's increasing the
amount of anti-us sentiment around the globe.
I recognize the need for a Military, as a deterrent, and as something to use in REAL defense of this nation. I don't recognize the need nor support
the way the military is currently being used. When people joined up they knew what they were doing, and what they would be involved in.
I have many friends who have been deployed, and none of them disagree with me. They joined up because of the benefits. This is their words. They had
no illusions about what they were doing. They don't expect me or anyone else to respect them or treat them any differently because they served in the
Military. Me and my friends constantly sit around and have political conversations and they are on the same page with me in thinking that the current
wars aren't protecting us at all. People that join up to command respect or gratitude from others aren't there for the right reasons. People that
join up to be "above" civilians aren't joining for the right reason. This country IS the civilians. Everything the military uses is FROM
civilians. Their wages are paid BY civilians. I absolutely hate this elitist mindset that many have that Military folks are superior to civilians.
This is not WWII, if it were, I'd join the military in a second, and I'd be upset about people going against the military because they would be
working directly to protect their fellow Americans. I love my countrymen and would die to defend them, but what we are doing now is not in defense of
this country, and those doing it KNEW that when they joined up. If they didn't know it, then they are incredibly ignorant and I don't know what to
say about them.
If you want to argue that Military folks DESERVE the respect of the civilian population than make an argument for it based on reality.