I agree with everyone who says this is not harsh enough punishment. Not sure exactly what a fitting punishment would be though. If her license is revoked she will likely still drive. I have seen many people with suspended or revoked licenses still drive a vehicle so I dont think that would have any effect on her.

In regards to the people using the cruel and unusual punishment line and saying this is humiliating needs to understand that any punishment can be considered humiliating. If I go to jail, I know I will feel humiliated. Does that mean I should get a free pass because of how the punishment will make me feel? No it sure does not. Some people need a little humiliation in their life to bring them back down to earth.

Poor woman has to stand and hold a sign. You watch I bet she will claim some kind of disability saying she cant stand that long and end up collecting disability payments.

In my opinion, she should have had to hold a sign for more than two hours. She CHOSE this punishment instead of fines, jail time, longer license suspension, etc. The 8th has no play here. She doesn't have to hold that sign DUH. Op should be holding a sign...

On another note that I never understood, what about the fact that a person making ten dollars an hour pays the same fine for lets say speeding, as a person making 300,000 a year salary? How the hell is that fair? Lets face it, our laws are unconstitutional in many of its forms.
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As the proverb says: you reap what you sow!

More of the same justice might make some people think. Not all.....

Originally posted by dharma04
In my opinion, she should have had to hold a sign for more than two hours. She CHOSE this punishment instead of fines, jail time, longer license suspension, etc. The 8th has no play here. She doesn't have to hold that sign DUH. Op should be holding a sign...

On another note that I never understood, what about the fact that a person making ten dollars an hour pays the same fine for lets say speeding, as a person making 300,000 a year salary? How the hell is that fair? Lets face it, our laws are unconstitutional in many of its forms.
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how does the 8th hold no play here?

maybe ya'll on this site that cannot read and sit here and cheer on blatant violations of the constitution should be holding signs eh?

In recent times, judicial use of public humiliation punishment has largely fallen out of favor since the practice is now considered cruel and unusual punishment, which is outlawed in the United States Constitution.

I saw the judge this morning on the news and her direct quote was "if she had shown any sense of remorse she would have a different sentence today."

Get over yourself OP this punishment was perfect and no rights were violated.

Victim mentality sucks..

Originally posted by howmuch4another
I saw the judge this morning on the news and her direct quote was "if she had shown any sense of remorse she would have a different sentence today."

Get over yourself OP this punishment was perfect and no rights were violated.

Victim mentality sucks..

Why would this be on the news if there was not a reason? They are trying to work away at the 8th amendment now which is my point.

I dont care about this woman, I dont not care whether she was imprisoned, I wouldnt care if she flat out didnt get any sentence

the fact of the matter is that using public humiliation as punishment was outlawed and there is an agenda behind this little ruling because we all know the gov likes to get public opinion to help loosen their constitutional chains whenever the opportunity arises

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin

Originally posted by mikellmikell
Some people are thick as a brick and I think the judge may have noticed that. Probably won't pass a buss again. treating criminals nicey nice has gotten us into this mess she got punnishment her parents couldn't give her. Hope more judges act like the parents they took the rights away from

Oh yes imprisonment is nicey nice is it?

go try it out and dare say something like that again? I'm sure after big bubba is done with you you will be singing a different tune in a different tone.

This is a blatant violation of the constitution and here you are glorifying the larger attempts to destroy the foundation of this country

Is it a violation of the constitution? What about making people pick up litter if they can't pay a fine. Many look embarrassed especially if you recognize them, but they usually don't repeat the minor offence that got them there.

Or like myself, years ago I was driving with no insurance as I could not afford it and was trying to go to college. The Judge sentenced me to 6 Months work in the City Library...which I think was perfectly fair.


I see where you are going, what if they decide on public dunking or branding a slur on you...I am not sure where the law leaves room.

How about a charge of reckless endangerment and endangering a child for every child getting off of the bus. Full penalties and jail time for each offense. That would have been appropriate.
She got off light.

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin

Originally posted by quantumgirl11
the police make drunk people clean up their own piss at night in busy town centers - sometimes humiliation is the only thing to make someone realize how idiotic they are. The woman is not being degraded - maybe if she was forced to strip, but she has headphones, a warm jacket and hopefully she is realizing the error of her ways, since multiple parents and court appearances have not.

See that makes sense though because they would have to have a hazmat (SP?) crew come clean up the drunks biohazard which would be expensive.

It is not humiliating in the sense that they put it there they can clean it because they arent going to catch a disease from touching it. And they arent being put on display for millions to see wearing degrading signs

The example is not even in the same ballpark try again

What city do you know where a woman can be seen by millions at one street corner in an hour? You want to get mad at the fact that now "millions" of people have been "forced" to see this woman's humiliation how about going after the ones who published it in the first place? Aren't you just as guilty for doing this because I hadn't even heard about this story until I saw your thread.

Yeah I didnt realize until after that I had misread the article

that isnt my point here though

Funny, almost every other post or response you have relishes in pointing out that poster's inability to read or "lack basic reading comprehension" but how dare members point out your own failures of active reading.

forcing someone to do community service is a way of giving back to the community and the tax payers and is not public humiliation.

forcing someone to stand around in public wearing a sign that says idiot is blatantly meant to be humiliating

what dont ya'll get about that?

Originally posted by MonkeyFishFrog

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin

Originally posted by quantumgirl11
the police make drunk people clean up their own piss at night in busy town centers - sometimes humiliation is the only thing to make someone realize how idiotic they are. The woman is not being degraded - maybe if she was forced to strip, but she has headphones, a warm jacket and hopefully she is realizing the error of her ways, since multiple parents and court appearances have not.

See that makes sense though because they would have to have a hazmat (SP?) crew come clean up the drunks biohazard which would be expensive.

It is not humiliating in the sense that they put it there they can clean it because they arent going to catch a disease from touching it. And they arent being put on display for millions to see wearing degrading signs

The example is not even in the same ballpark try again

What city do you know where a woman can be seen by millions at one street corner in an hour? You want to get mad at the fact that now "millions" of people have been "forced" to see this woman's humiliation how about going after the ones who published it in the first place? Aren't you just as guilty for doing this because I hadn't even heard about this story until I saw your thread.

Yeah I didnt realize until after that I had misread the article

that isnt my point here though

Funny, almost every other post or response points out that poster's inability to read or "lack basic reading comprehension" but how dare members point out your own failures of active reading.

edit on 11/13/2012 by MonkeyFishFrog because: (no reason given)

the reason I said millions is because hey millions have seen video of this woman doing just that.

I state that these people lack basic ability to read because they obviously have misread and misinterpreted what I have stated in their rush to be a tool and conform to bashing me for offering an opinion.

oh and the complete inability to distinguish the point I created this discussion about with (and this is beyond me) thinking that I am defending this woman. I am in fact defending the constitution which states that cruel and unusual punishment is illegal in which use of public humiliation was outlawed because it is viewed as cruel an unusual.

tell me how is forcing someone to wear a sign that says idiot not meant to be humiliating? please explain that if you want to be such a smartass

Originally posted by TDawgRex

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
Should we start tattooing this kind of crap on peoples heads because they made one single bad judgement call? Yes it was stupid but to do this to an individual just because they did something stupid is wrong

This woman did not make a single bad judgement call, she had done this act multiple times and was finally caught.

I believe that she got off easy. Hopefully she'll learn that the world does not revolve around her. Imagine, the audacity of that school bus interupting her schedule.

I agree. She obviously is aware of the time the bus stops. She could have left her home earlier or a minute or two later. What she did was dangerous and selfish. Should have lost her license for a longer period of time. She made a conscious choice to do the wrong thing, over and over. Accept the consequences....