reply to post by Tbrooks76
and this guy just offered me starting position at 13 and hour. I was there for about 3 months when it was announced they were going to closing parts
of the plant and start import pulp. I was working on the pulp side of plant, and we all got laid off. Not wanting to back to 9 an hour, I went looking
for another industrial electrical contractor. I got a job at place called E&I inc. that had job in of all places a doo-doo plant doing an expansion.
The foreman on that job was guy name Denny and I was helper. On day we did swap over, changing one doo-doo pump for another. The company a few guys
working there one a controls guy, and when did the change over the new pump didn’t work right. Something was wrong with the controls, the plant need
the pump running it was one key pumps in the process. Denny told us all nobody was going home till the pump was running. So there the whole crew in
the MCC (motor control center) waiting on this controls guy to fix the problem. We were supposed to go at 5pm and here was 6pm and the controls guy
still hasn’t got it working. The crew was just sitting there waiting, so I grab a copy of the control wiring started looking it over. It took about
5 minutes and figured out what the problem was, If a contact that was supposed to normally closed was wired normally open it would cause the problems
were having. So I told Denny I think I found the problem, Denny was just pissed because it was getting late this pump was working, the controls guys
was annoyed cause he find the problem, and when I said I found it, they both looked me annoyingly like what hell this 19 year old helper know about
controls, and before I explain Denny told me to go wait in outside. I said to myself fine whatever I’m not push the issue. About 7pm rolled around
and Denny when from pissed to super pissed, he came outside for min to claim down. I was still out there waiting to go home, and he walked up and
asked so what do think the problem is. I told about the contact, a few mins later he walked outside, and with a pissed look on face and yelled at me
to go the f---k home. I left didn’t know what happen, he just looked pissed. Every morning we had a safety meeting, the next day the controls guy
wasn;t there. As it turned out Denny wasn't mad at me, he went in there the night before and told the controls guy what I said about the contacts,
the controls guy tried it and fixed the problem. Denny was mad this high paid controls guy couldn’t fix the problem and I did. That morning Denny
throw a bunch drawings in my lap and congrats, you got the 3 dollar an hours raise and your our new controls guy. Now I’m 19 years old and 15
dollars an hour. After this job was done about, a 3 month project, one of the part owners of the company want to slit off and start up is own, he
wanted to be a full owner and not a part owner. This guy was good friends with Denny and Denny was good friends with me. The guy talk Denny into
helping start it up, and Denny talk me into going with them. Chip was the part owners name, now Chip was sneaky. He didn’t tell the other partners
he was starting is own company. By day we worked with them, and night we all meet up and bid and estimate jobs. We never bid on a job the other
company was biding, and the way it works is you if you bid 15 jobs you be lucky to get one. So Chip was doing a lot of estimating and took me and
Denny under his wing to teach us estimating to in order to help him out. Then it happen we landed a big job. Denny and Chip put their house up as
collateral and browed the money to get started. I was offered to be a part owner, but I had to put some money in too. I wasn't as willing to do that.
Now the rolls changed a little, Chip was managing, Denny was going off to run the jobs, and Chip was letting me estimate. I hated it!!!
I knew most the projects were being done with Chip and Denny borrowing money and putting their houses up, and here I am trying to estimate jobs for
them. It was stressful, anytime I got them a job, I would think crap hope I didn’t under estimate this. They always give jobs to lowest bidder, so
the question was why I’m the loosest did I missing something? Are we going to make money on this? Then there was constant pressure to get jobs too.
I was always stressed and worried.
By the time I was 22 I was making 19 hour and was doing estimating full time, and constantly stressed out. My father came to one day asked me I want
to come work with the company he did, Dad is piping designer for an engineering firm. He told me his company was look for an entry level draft for
the electrical department. Me being constantly stress and not like my job asked how much does it pay. He said 13 an hour. That was a 6 dollar an hour
hit, I said hell No. A few months later a job I bided was going kind of bad. So moron hooked up an expensive transform wrong and put a hot wire to the
ground. It blew the bottom out and ruins the transform and did damage to some surrounding equipment. A few thousand in damage, it almost the took the
profit marriage for that job, we would be luckly if we made anything. I always felt the heat when jobs were going wrong, because I bid them. I asked
my Dad to tell me more about drafting, told me this in nut shell, I started out at very bottom at 7 an hour doing construction in a few years I’ve
tripled my money, the drafting position he wanted me take was for 12 and entry level, and that if worked as hard there I could triple my money again
in another 4 years. So I told Chip, I was going to try it. I couldn’t put up with the stress of estimating and help him run the company.
So at 22 I became a drafter, for 12 an hour. Within 6 months I got bump up 15 an hour. A year and haft later was a new title and a raise, junior
designer 20 and hour. Then few years later a designer, by the time I was 30 I was senior E&I designer, and was making that 48 an hour. Then a
wonderful happen, you see a few years back windows 95 came out and the internet was coming of age. Everybody want to go to school for something to do
with computers. Nobody was going to school for engineering and design degrees. So as a lot the older engineers and designer where retiring there
wasn’t that many people coming up to take their places. Still have that going to this day. Supply and demand, now engineering firm are needed good
engineers and designer and market is very completive. It drove the wages up, with in 5 years It went from 48 to the mid 60’s and lots of overtime.
Now on the low end high 50s on the high end 70s some companies will pay in 80s if you know the right drafting software
edit on 14-11-2012 by Tbrooks76 because: pasted wrong thing.
edit on 14-11-2012 by Tbrooks76 because: (no reason