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Conservatives, don't despair...

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posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:54 AM

Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
I remember it was just 8 years ago when my opposition to things like the Patriot Act, the Federal Reserve, warrantless searches, and endless wars made me a tree hugging, pot smoking, hippie loving, liberal. Now those same opinions make me an intolerant, racist, xenophobic, neo-nazi, conservative. I'm not sure which I like better.

But yeah, don't worry conservatives. Liberals are in the same sinking boat that you are. They just happen to like the captain better at this time.

A -- this piece is written by a well known Republican, not "Liberal"

B -- Your opposition to the PA, Fed. Reserve, Warrantless searches etc. is valid. Keep it up.

This article is not a defense of those things. It is a rebuttal to the false apocolyptic cries of the far-right who have declared that the re-election of Pres. Obama means America is gone and is now a socialist, tyranical regime. That is a natural conclusion if you took the GOPs rhetoric of the past few years as literal gospel. The irony is I am certain those who have been calling the President a socialist from the Right Wing Media and campaign trail have done so knowing full well it was not true, but desperate to sway voters to thier advantage. Now that the election is over, it is a bit shocking to see how many voters actually believed them and came to the natural conclusion that we are now the USSR. I think even the propagandists are a bit shocked at how effective thier BS was. It reminds me of a lesser version of the Christian Cult who declared the world would end last year...made a national tour..followers across the country gave up thier belongings and prepared for the end of times etc. And when the day came..They were dissapointed the world didn't end. Did they lose faith? Some...but most believed thier leader that he had just gotten the year year...the world will end next year....
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posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 09:59 AM
Edit cuz I saw the constitution - God thing was addressed on page one.
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posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Jerk_Idiot
reply to post by LeatherNLace

My apoligies. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Declaration of Independence. Most people consider the Creator to be God.

Correct, not the constituion...and NOT the declaration of independance.

The use of the word "Creaator" vs. God is not mysterious. It is not as if the founders couldn't remember the word for "God"...It was discussed and debated at the time. The choice of the word "Creator" was probably one of the most deliberate choices of words in that document AND was chosen by men who were devout Christians...what does that tell you?

You claim that without the word "God", there are no equal rights? The founders felt just the opposite, that to claim that our rights derived from the Christian religion would in fact deny the rights of any that chose to follow a different faith or none at all. The word "God" would have enshrined inequality...not ensured it. Our founders were great men.
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posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Indigo5

I find it amazing that Conservative media and it's large following has adopted the refrain that somehow we are no no longer the America of our fathers....we aren't...we are much more free and much more capitalistic.

The whole rhetoric about socialism, tyranny, the America of our forefathers being gone?? Look again at 1962, we are dramatically more liberated and capitalistic than our fathers or grandfathers America. This doesn't even account for civil rights, the womens movement etc...

Conservatives have nothing to despair...assuming they actually are sincere in thier rhetoric...

What a warped view of where the Country has gone from the original construction.
We are more free, yet how many more laws are on the books as compared to even last year?
We are more free, yet we have a Fed Govt that is more vindictive of those that speak out against it?
We are more free, yet we have a Govt that can look into person aspects of a persons life?

There are SO many more to list, yet I don't have the time needed.

No, we are not more free, we are more controlled and more regulated then even a year ago.

And quoting someone from the Bush Admin as a Conservative?
Please find someone qualifying instead of parading around a Bush era RINO holdout.

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