posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 06:19 AM
The reactionaries who are treating this as some true, valid drive to actually secede from the Union are really disappointing. I'm sure ATS has it's
share of 12 yr olds but I really didn't expect this to be the issue to fire them up.
The odds of there being another civil war in this country, especially now are so low as to be almost impossible. We've done a really bang up job of
re-inventing the history of the last one to the point where most people don't really understand why the last one was fought let alone comprehend the
nature of our society at that time vs. today.
It took a huge, extremely divisive issue to create the events that led to our civil war. America was a different place then made up of different
people. There were people alive to see the creation of the country still around to see the civil war take place and the population was still made up
of immigrants and the first two generations of immigrants. The identity of being "American" and "American Only" did not exist then and the violent
tyranny of various places in Europe was still a fresh, painful memory for quite a large number of the populace.
Regardless of attempts to state otherwise for various reasons the civil war was fought over slavery first and the encroachment of the federal
government into state governments in ways that represented drastic, life changing impact second. People in positions requiring them to know better
were far too willing to make sudden, passion based decisions such as wanting to abolish slavery overnight and damn the consequences to the lives of a
large number of people. There was no plan to transition and had that change taken place outside of a war and the harsh realities of it to the people
in the South that change could have thrown the entire country into an economic collapse. This is why you had people in the South who supported ending
slavery but were willing to fight to protect their families from enforced poverty.
Yes, the Federal government did not make the ending of slavery an immediate "war goal" but people forget the entire reason for the secession was the
issue of slavery. Lincoln had campaigned as a new Republican (the democrats were the pro slavery party of that time so he switched) and ran on a vast
tour of speaking events where he gave impassioned pleas for the abolition of slavery in America. Everyone knew what his election meant and when he
gained office without carrying a single "slave state" the reaction of those States was secession.
There is no issue recognized by the entire population of such large and moral consequence to make taking up arms against your fellow Americans right
now a viable option. I don't know that even the application of more abuses of freedom by the Feds will create that atmosphere.
What these petitions really represent for most of the participants is making a statement to the Federal Govt and the President that people are
extremely upset. Take your pick about what, there are numerous possibilities.
Unfortunately Obama will ignore that fact and will make this into a racial issue or a similar diversion, IMO.
edit on 13-11-2012 by ecoparity
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