Sure Looks Fragile to ME!! 1month (4831 EQ) vs 5 months (4907), page 1


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Topic started on 13-11-2012 @ 12:56 AM by ascension211
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In the last 30 days these are the 4+ magnitude Earthquakes across the world:

Total = 679 *(4831)
Avg. = 4.7 *(2.2)
Daily Avg.= 23 *(161)

*Parentheses include 1 to 7.8 magnitude.

The previous 5 months combined:

2012/05/13 to 2012/10/13

Total = 2757 *(4907)
Daily Avg. = 18*(33)

*Parentheses include 1 to 7.8 magnitude.


WOW! I must be looking at this wrong, but it seems to me that is a significant increase.

Someone, please, tell me I am nuts. That's an Avg. difference daily of 128. Worldwide.


Am I using the wrong formula?

Ascension211


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 01:27 AM by badnickname
reply to post by ascension211


That should be compared to other periods/months in the last 10 years. It is possible that its still a regular/normal amount.

If its not, however, I would add that its intriguing to me the amount of floods that are happening worldwide on a day by day basis in the last 30 days. Nigera, India, Indonesia, SE Europe, USA.. etc etc..
All over the place, floods among the highest remmembered. Currently, Venice is underwater.


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 01:43 AM by hououinkyouma
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If its not, however, I would add that its intriguing to me the amount of floods that are happening worldwide on a day by day basis in the last 30 days. Nigera, India, Indonesia, SE Europe, USA.. etc etc..


Not just the amount of flood, but droughts too...and some people say that the climate is not changing.



reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 02:20 AM by intergalactic fire
Originally posted by ascension211
earthquake.usgs.gov...

In the last 30 days these are the 4+ magnitude Earthquakes across the world:

Total = 679 *(4831)
Avg. = 4.7 *(2.2)
Daily Avg.= 23 *(161)

*Parentheses include 1 to 7.8 magnitude.

The previous 5 months combined:

2012/05/13 to 2012/10/13

Total = 2757 *(4907)
Daily Avg. = 18*(33)

*Parentheses include 1 to 7.8 magnitude.


WOW! I must be looking at this wrong, but it seems to me that is a significant increase.

Someone, please, tell me I am nuts. That's an Avg. difference daily of 128. Worldwide.


Am I using the wrong formula?

Ascension211

I think you are. Why not compare it on a yearly basis on a timespan of min 10 years or 50 years. Also in 50 years you can't compare that much but it surely gives a better view than just look over one month.
The last 2 years, the amount of +4 EQ's were significaly lower than other years.

+4mag EQ's for the last 12 years.
data recovered from USGS
2011/11/13 - 2012/11/13 : 3399
2010/11/13 - 2011/11/13 : 2198
2009/11/13 - 2010/11/13 : 11389
2008/11/13 - 2009/11/13 : 9586
2007/11/13 - 2008/11/13 : 14325
2006/11/13 - 2007/11/13 : 15094
2005/11/13 - 2006/11/13 : 13936
2004/11/13 - 2005/11/13 : 16608
2003/11/13 - 2004/11/13 : 11687
2002/11/13 - 2003/11/13 : 9540
2001/11/13 - 2002/11/13 : 9889
2000/11/13 - 2001/11/13 : 9814

I would say no increase but rather a decrease from the data of these 12 years.
But as I said, 12 years 50 years even 100 years wouldn't be enough to understand what's happening to this planet in it's 4.5 billion years of existence.

I can also hear the people say, why is there a decrease in EQ's? Is there a pressure building up for some major event, a superquake of some sort?
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reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 02:38 AM by intergalactic fire
reply to post by badnickname


These floods are no big surprise, if people keep putting concrete in the ground, there is no way for the water to drain.
The more they build to less soil, plants and trees there are for sucking up all this rain.


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:00 AM by intergalactic fire
reply to post by aaronez


5 degrees above normal, that would be a major change of events. Do you have a link to back that up.
This is from an article of 2011. It mostly talks about the adaptation of plants and animals throughout these temperature changes, climate changes in the Weddel Sea.
According to Fahrbach, the temperature in the Weddell Sea has risen by six hundreds of a degree on average across the entire water column in the last 26 years.

With only that much difference major changes can be noticed throughout the whole world.
Among other things, the researchers analyse the temperature and salt concentration distribution in this context. In the Weddell Sea the worldwide conditions in the deep sea are influenced in such a way that cold, saline water sinks (thermohaline circulation). It can therefore be expected that changes in the properties of these cold water masses in the Antarctic will have worldwide impacts. As a matter of fact, the temperature increase of bottom water can be detected over large sections of the ocean north of the Atlantic


So you can imagine what a 5 degrees change would do?

investigations of changes in Weddell Sea habitat


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:02 AM by union_jack
reply to post by ascension211

I have to agree with you, that eastern stretch of the pacific ring is the most active i've seen it for a while. Lets just hope that mother Earth is just having a mild panic attack.



reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:10 AM by notsosunny
Originally posted by intergalactic fire
reply to post by badnickname


These floods are no big surprise, if people keep putting concrete in the ground, there is no way for the water to drain.
The more they build to less soil, plants and trees there are for sucking up all this rain.


yeah, lots of concrete in Nigeria....


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:13 AM by intergalactic fire
reply to post by badnickname


Yes, you are right.
But coastline and riverbanks have always changed, flooded, sealevels rise and fall, that's a natural process. As is climate change. It has been for millions of years.
The major difference now is that there are more people building more houses and cities on coastal areas and closer to rivers and lakes(maybe not closer, just more and more).

Don't blame nature for these changes or say that there is something abnormal going on.(not refering to you, but just in general).


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:23 AM by intergalactic fire
Originally posted by notsosunny
Originally posted by intergalactic fire
reply to post by badnickname


These floods are no big surprise, if people keep putting concrete in the ground, there is no way for the water to drain.
The more they build to less soil, plants and trees there are for sucking up all this rain.


yeah, lots of concrete in Nigeria....

I don't now if you have ever been to nigeria but floods there are pretty common. That's why they are called seasonal floods, right. These happen all over the world in areas with a tropical climate.
And yes Nigeria has many big cities with lots of buildings and concrete.



reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 03:36 AM by intergalactic fire
reply to post by ascension211


I checked out your data for the last 30 days and can't find the number of 4831.
This is what i get for the last 30 days.

Global Search Earthquakes= 803
Catalog Used: PDE
Date Range: 2012/10/13 to 2012/11/13
Magnitude Range: 1.0 - 7.8
link
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reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 11:08 AM by ascension211
6964 earthquakes All events in the past 30 days and when I downloaded and sorted the spread sheet I got this: 4831


[color=Red]Magnitude 7.8 7.4 6.8 6.5 6.5 6.4 6.3 6.3 6.2 6.2 6.1 6 5.9 5.9 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.1 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.9 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.4 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.3 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4.1 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.7 3.7 3.7 3.7 3.7 3.7 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.6 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.4 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.3 3.28 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.2 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3.1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.81 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.8 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.7 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.6 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.5 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4 2.4...


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 11:11 AM by Ben81
reply to post by ascension211


3.28 and 2.81
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reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 01:07 PM by intergalactic fire
reply to post by ascension211


You want us to count all those? even then it would never be more than 4000.
A link from where you got this data would do better


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 01:13 PM by jtma508
You should look into Patrick Geryl's EQ predictions over the last several months. George Ure covers it here. Scroll down just below the Peoplenomics ad.

George has also been posting EQ tracking by Tony R. His research goes back years and he is finding that the frequency of smaller EQ's is decreasing while there is a marked increase in EQ frequency of 7.0+. Scary.


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 01:39 PM by intergalactic fire
reply to post by jtma508

your link isn't working.
But I have this one for you. Data goes back to 1980.
An increase of +7 EQ's?
Surely no major changes noticeable.
earthquake.usgs.gov...


reply posted on 13-11-2012 @ 04:26 PM by intergalactic fire
reply to post by ascension211


A link to the Earthquakes past 7 days, M2.5+??
I meant if you could give me a link with those 4831 EQ's the last month.
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