Help ATS with a contribution via PayPal:
learn more

Texas reaches 25,000+ Signatures

page: 12
33
<< 9  10  11    13  14  15 >>

log in

join

posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 05:12 PM
link   
Texas has a population of 25.6 million people... These 25,000-75,000 wack jobs do not represent the majority by any stretch, if anything, they're just a "radical" group within the US who are discussing "radical" ideas...

If the petition had over 10,000,000 signatures I'd maybe give them a little credit, but less than 100k isn't impressive at all...




posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 05:46 PM
link   
reply to post by jhn7537
 


Well...it's definitely not going to be over 10 million signatures from Texas since you can't even get 10 million votes for the presidential election...but...I get your point....

Total signatures is just past 83,000 at the moment (just checked out of curiosity)



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 05:50 PM
link   

Originally posted by jhn7537
Texas has a population of 25.6 million people... These 25,000-75,000 wack jobs do not represent the majority by any stretch, if anything, they're just a "radical" group within the US who are discussing "radical" ideas...

If the petition had over 10,000,000 signatures I'd maybe give them a little credit, but less than 100k isn't impressive at all...


83,000 signatures with a deadline of December 9th.
It MAY just see 100,000. I'd certainly be surprised.

Eta: too bad a handful of the folks that would sign it probably don't have a computer, Internet access, a twitter, or are apart of any social network to hear about this petition. Sad..sad indeed.
edit on 13-11-2012 by LightWarrior11 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 05:53 PM
link   

Originally posted by alldaylong

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by alldaylong

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by frazzle
reply to post by shaneslaughta
 



Tbh i hadent thought about that but the pieces fit in my eyes. But i only see the corruption come out from the onset of the FED.
JFK knew it and look what he got for his trouble.


Yup, the creation of the FED is when it became so apparent, but the corruption was there all along. Take the Homestead Act of 1862 ~ long before the federal reserve act was passed. Twice the amount of land sold to regular people through the HS act was given to the railroad barons and huge prime pieces of land were scooped up by wealthy speculators before the little people could scrape up enough money to buy their "fair share".

And when the people protested the result, guess what was blamed. Not enough staff and incompetence. But nothing was done to repair the damage and no one's head rolled. Does that ring any bells?

Big fat yes on JFK. He was the president and no one even knew about his silver certificates until it was too late for the people to back him on it. The media has always been our worst enemy.


Beyond that, they sent families into dangerous territories by giving land grants for homestead, like Oregon only 1 in 10 survived and then they found Grizzly's and Indians., hunger and starvation.

But once people had their land for some years the deeds were given to rich as favors and all those homes were not passed to the families that fought and died for them...this happened all over the states, politicians and rich were reallotted the land owned by the homesteaders.



Oregon was hardly a "Barren Wildness" when Americans began to settle there. Oregon for most was owned by The British Hudson Bay Company, and they formed the Government of the day in Oregon.


yeah the ones that lived through the disease and accidents and starvation of the trail had it really nice in a Holiday Inn because there was already British Hudson Bay Company.

Elizabeth Dixon Smith in 1847, stated that they were so crowded in their leaky little shack that "you could have stirred us with a stick". Those who were already sick from the hardships of the trail often died due to the winter conditions that took the final toll.
www.oregonpioneers.com...

I was able to enter actives off limits to the public, and read original letters by the setters because I traveled the whole of the USA with a history teacher who was writing a book.

Here where I live we have many histories and monuments to these brave settlers who died or lost children to settle the area.



And you think this only happened to Americans? How about the Pioneers of other nations who went before them? I am talking about the "Original" British Pioneers etc. Or had you forgotten about those?


I am sorry but I don't see how that is anywhere near being on the subject I originally responded to.

We were speaking of the corruption of the US Government, how did you get onto British Pioneers.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 05:58 PM
link   
Cool! I'm from Texas. I wouldn't sign the petition but now maybe someone will make those cool Secede stickers that were around during the early 80's



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 06:32 PM
link   

Originally posted by jhn7537
Texas has a population of 25.6 million people... These 25,000-75,000 wack jobs do not represent the majority by any stretch, if anything, they're just a "radical" group within the US who are discussing "radical" ideas...

If the petition had over 10,000,000 signatures I'd maybe give them a little credit, but less than 100k isn't impressive at all...


Been up for signatures less than a week and they still have 24 days to sign. Should be interesting to see how many they get. Any bets?



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 06:36 PM
link   
why would anyone assume the new government would be any better ?

you would lose all the federal money for roads and schools, and you would have to build a fence and hire a military and you'd need a central bank and diplomats and an entire new level of government on top of the existing ones

thei idea really hasn't been vetted, just a knee jerk reaction to internet doom porn and sore losers from the election

obama is a 90's republican, he isn't going to make you a communist



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:01 PM
link   
I must be missing something here. 25 million people live in Texas, how is 20k+ even enough of people for the state to secede?



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:29 PM
link   
I do believe after reading the numerous comments on a variety the same topic here at ATS, that some of you would go to blows over it. So the Division here currently in the United States is ever growing, and that is well apparent.

It also is only the beginning of a movement in this direction that appears to be gaining steam. Like it or not, the people that are petitioning are Patriots that are using the means available under the Constitution to Throw off the oppression and corruption run rampant throughout our government and career politicians.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:37 PM
link   
I think they'll reach 143,527 signatures.

Still, this seems like a honeypot to me.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:37 PM
link   

Originally posted by rickymouse
All the US has to do is to pull all bases out of Texas, confiscate all of it's assets there, and say bye. No more protecting the state or contributing to disaster funding, they are on their own. We also will treat their products as not US made. Pull out NASA and other programs there because we can't keep them secure anymore. I see no problem with this, if they want to go let them. They will need a passport to come to the USA as will all citizens going to Texas, I won't go there, I'll spend my money in the USA.

Just because they got 25K votes doesn't mean that all people there want to succeed from the USA either. It will be a nightmare, we will have to put border patrols between Texas and the USA and get rid of the patrols between Texas and Mexico. I see this as good having a riled up country that dislikes hispanics between us and Mexico. There will have to be laws governing imigration from Texas to the USA if that happens though, they won't have free rein of this country anymore. I say let them go and try it on themselves, if they get too bitchy and pushy as a neighbor, we can just carpet bomb their cities....Just kidding.

Everyone on here that are saying if TEXAS does this or that, etc. don't forget other states feel the same way and Texas is just getting the ball rolling!
If nothing else, this will show Obama that he is the first president since the "1st" American civil war to actually be a bad enough president that thousands of Americans want nothing to do with him or his socialist ideas!
Arizona is on your side Texas!



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:41 PM
link   

Originally posted by diamount
I must be missing something here. 25 million people live in Texas, how is 20k+ even enough of people for the state to secede?

Yes, you and a lot of people are missing something, this is just the beginning and 25K speaks volumes in a petition that has only been around a few days!



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:43 PM
link   
I'll go with the lucky number 114,000.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:45 PM
link   

Originally posted by diamount
I must be missing something here. 25 million people live in Texas, how is 20k+ even enough of people for the state to secede?


It’s not. That number is just the amount of signatures needed for it to be looked at and that is all. There is even a petition going to have everyone who signed a petition to succeed to be striped of citizenship and deported. It really doesn’t mean anything. Hitting the magic number of 25000 only means someone will read it and write a response nothing more.

It’s all for show.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:45 PM
link   
Lets not discount the idea that the White House is using this as a means to gather info on dissenters.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:48 PM
link   
Anyone who doesn't think Texas would be better off without the US Government, should do some research into Texan Economics. :-) 15th largest economy in the world, self sufficient in oil production and refinement, self sustaining power grid with major dedication to solar and wind energies, an intrastate commerce system that retains more than 86% of every dollar spent in Texas, a low-ish unemployment rate, self sustaining amounts of agriculture and meat production. In fact, the US would actually be in some serious trouble if Texas seceded. In fact, as the Republic of Texas, Texas already flies it's flag at the same height as the American flag, and Austin has a capitol building that's much bigger than the capitol in D.C. (which is the only one like it.)

I don't think any other state could secede and make it on their own, for lack of production and available jobs. However, I do think that LA, OK, and NM could POSSIBLY piggy-back along with Texas, although I don't think we'd let them as they are mostly poverty stricken welfare states bordering along America's only "super state."



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:56 PM
link   
Adios Tejas!



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 08:23 PM
link   

Originally posted by mrsoul2013
Adios Tejas!


Ha, coming from the same guy who probably attacks anti-Obama citizens, by calling them racists? Am I right?



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 08:43 PM
link   

Originally posted by davjan4
Lets not discount the idea that the White House is using this as a means to gather info on dissenters.


The NSA has every bit of information they need on every dissenter in this country with or without this petition. Regard of how the White House reacts these petitions make a statement about a government that does not represent the people. It has nothing to do with left or right.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 08:53 PM
link   

Originally posted by Xterrain
Anyone who doesn't think Texas would be better off without the US Government, should do some research into Texan Economics. :-) 15th largest economy in the world, self sufficient in oil production and refinement, self sustaining power grid with major dedication to solar and wind energies, an intrastate commerce system that retains more than 86% of every dollar spent in Texas, a low-ish unemployment rate, self sustaining amounts of agriculture and meat production. In fact, the US would actually be in some serious trouble if Texas seceded. In fact, as the Republic of Texas, Texas already flies it's flag at the same height as the American flag, and Austin has a capitol building that's much bigger than the capitol in D.C. (which is the only one like it.)

I don't think any other state could secede and make it on their own, for lack of production and available jobs. However, I do think that LA, OK, and NM could POSSIBLY piggy-back along with Texas, although I don't think we'd let them as they are mostly poverty stricken welfare states bordering along America's only "super state."


Don't forget to count in the fact that they won't be alone. They'll be joined by other southern states and Plains states. Also, come on guys, 114,000. Is that all. They are already at 80,000 in just three days. I'm betting Texas signatures alone reach into the high 100,000's. Maybe 750,000+





new topics

top topics



 
33
<< 9  10  11    13  14  15 >>

log in

join