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reply posted on 12-11-2012 @ 10:15 AM by newcovenant
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reply posted on 12-11-2012 @ 10:34 AM by frazzle
Originally posted by subjectzero
People are disgusted and at their wits end. They want solutions to their problems. They see four more years of negatives coming their way - unemployment, recession, taxes, etc.

Laugh if you must but try to understand the frustration that is driving people who disgree with you to these extremes. They are desperate for change.

They haven't seen any in four years and they don't have any hope for the next four.


I can sympathize with people who are looking for solutions and certainly with calls for secession from the union, but at least these people could cite the actual cause of their dilemma. The problems began a lot longer ago than 2008, or even 1908, or even 1808. The problems are not a result of the "union" of states, but with how that union was funded ~ bankers. Remember, the first clause in article 1 section 8 provides for taxing the people to pay off congress's borrowing from bankers.

As always, the problem is MONEY and how it's created, based on credit and debt.

The first congressman from Georgia, James Jackson, seemed to have been one of few people that understood where Hamilton’s plan would take the young nation. On February 9, 1790 he stated: (Annals of Congress, Vol. I, February 1790).

I contend that such a funding system in this country will be highly dangerous to the welfare of the Republic. It may, for a moment, raise our credit, and increase our circulation by multiplying a new form of currency, but it must hereafter settle upon our posterity a burden which they can neither bear nor relieve themselves from. It will establish a precedent in America that may, and in all probability will, be pursued by the Sovereign authority, until it brings upon us that ruin which it has never failed to bring, or is inevitably bringing, upon all the nations of the earth who have had the temerity to make the experiment. Let us take warning by the errors of Europe and
guard against the introduction of a system followed by calamities so universal. Though our present debt be but a few millions, in the course of a single century it may be multiplied to an extent we dare not think of.


www.wealthmoney.org...

This all happened long before the federal reserve was even a twinkle in JP Morgan's eye.

But no one thinks about simply seceding from the international banks. The states NEED all that funding, they grovel for that funding, they give up all their people's rights to keep that funding flowing because they can't think outside the box the founders put them in 250 years ago.
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reply posted on 12-11-2012 @ 10:48 AM by kozmo
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It's a blog and there is no key to even understand the map. Again, a careful review of census data on welfare and food stamp recipients aligned with voting tendencies will blow this whole notion up.

I haven't the time to do your homework for you. I've already seen the evidence first hand. People on the gravy train vote for the gravy train - so why would they be a "Red State"? They're certainly not going to vote to lower taxes on those evil filthy rich people and they sure the heck aren't go to vote for the gravy train to stop.

Simply employing basic logic, without the actual data, would have you arrive at that conclusion.


reply posted on 12-11-2012 @ 11:25 AM by earthalien50
Originally posted by kozmo
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I haven't the time to do your homework for you. I've already seen the evidence first hand. People on the gravy train vote for the gravy train - so why would they be a "Red State"? They're certainly not going to vote to lower taxes on those evil filthy rich people and they sure the heck aren't go to vote for the gravy train to stop.

Simply employing basic logic, without the actual data, would have you arrive at that conclusion.


I am dying to see the "actual data," but I am almost certain that you just don't have the time to enlighten a fellow citizen. I don't mean to be harsh, but logic and reason are what you claim, yet you have no evidence other than your personal opinion. This seems contradictory to me. Sorry, I just don't have the time to waste talking to someone with does not know what is true and what is Fox.


reply posted on 12-11-2012 @ 11:48 AM by jtma508
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We sure are. But people seem to feel like this is a United States problem and all it will take is the pushing of the right buttons. This is a Global problem. An unprecedented and widespread economic disease that may be terminal for all we know. Romney doesn't have the answer. The other side was doing and saying everything they could to regain control (this should be evident by the outrageous position shifts and contradictory campaign rhetoric). Not to 'fix' the country but rather to put THEIR chosen benefactors at the public trough to feed. Don't kid yourselves. Nothing would have changed.


reply posted on 12-11-2012 @ 12:58 PM by DocHolidaze
reply to post by AfterInfinity


there probly trying to get a list of people to watch and monitor closley, when martial law is enacted. and a dictator is crowned. just a thought
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