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Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez on Thursday urged newly re-elected President Obama to "stop invading" other countries and "think about his own country" which suffers from social and economic problems.
"It is a divided country... [It has] poverty that grows every day, misery and an elite, a superelite, that exploits the country and society, and even poisons it, tricks it and manipulates it through a media war," he added.
Originally posted by lewman
reply to post by havok
Since when was Hugo Chavez a dictator?
Originally posted by NysgjerrigDame
reply to post by gladtobehere
Didn't Hugo Chavez nationalize the oil industry and use a portion of the profits to cut the poverty rate by 1/2 and reduce extreme poverty by 70%? That would seem very evil indeed.
Originally posted by NysgjerrigDame
reply to post by NavyDoc
I take it you mustn't know much about Human Rights Watch, nor who funds it. I don't personally care much for everything that Chavez has done, but throwing around lies and half-truths isn't constructive.
Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by NysgjerrigDame
Hes a Communist and needs to be overthrown!
To be honest, I'm a free market guy but not through the barrel of a US tank.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by NysgjerrigDame
reply to post by NavyDoc
I take it you mustn't know much about Human Rights Watch, nor who funds it. I don't personally care much for everything that Chavez has done, but throwing around lies and half-truths isn't constructive.
Are not lies nor half truths.
Don't like HRW? How about:
Amnesty International
Inter American Human Rights Commision
Inter American Press Association
Reuters
Rather than calling me a liar, can you actually refute the positions of many organizations and outlets?
edit on 12-11-2012 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NysgjerrigDame
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by NysgjerrigDame
reply to post by NavyDoc
I take it you mustn't know much about Human Rights Watch, nor who funds it. I don't personally care much for everything that Chavez has done, but throwing around lies and half-truths isn't constructive.
Are not lies nor half truths.
Don't like HRW? How about:
Amnesty International
Inter American Human Rights Commision
Inter American Press Association
Reuters
Rather than calling me a liar, can you actually refute the positions of many organizations and outlets?
edit on 12-11-2012 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)
Amnesty International receives government funds and has been known to be biased.
Amnesty International
Inter American Human Rights Commission receives government funding. IACHR
Here is a link to the organization that was reported to get funding from the CIA in the 1970's IAPA
Reuters is just too easy.
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Originally posted by NysgjerrigDame
reply to post by NavyDoc
Saul Alinsky tactic? Laughable at best. I suppose I misunderstood your views and assumed incorrectly that you believed the propaganda against non-western leaders. I do disagree with your statement praising Chavez, but I'm curious to know as to why you think him a saint? Nice links, by the way.
Chavez to Obama: Stop Invading Countries, Focus on the US