Mayan explanation of what will happen 2012.

reply to post by seen2much


Dec. 22nd is trash day, and I'm the trash. I've made my peace with it.

reply to post by MrUncreated


Are you serious or attention seeking? I suggest you rethink everything you have learned upto this point. If you are sitting waiting for something to happen that's your biggest mistake. For something to happen, it would be part of a chain reaction. Do your part. You are the one who changes your world.

I agree. There is nothing wrong in making a mistake and believing the hype. You obviously do not like the way things are in the world and want to see it change. That is noble and I cannot blame you. Think of this as a stepping stone to a greater awareness.

Just because you wre fooled it does not mean you are a fool. Your intentions were commendable. Now you can move on. Just relax and look within.

reply to post by Wifibrains


I never understood why some think it is all about attention? There are many ways to get attention. Punch someone in the face, set yourself on fire, kick a puppy, urinate on a priest, etc. Death is the end goal of life. It is like a movie with credits. But why sit in an empty theater, all alone in the dark, with a blank reel that has no movie on it, just commercials? There is nothing here for me. I was willing to stick around, just in case December 21, 2012, and all this crap *might* be true. I don't count on it, but I'll wait and see. But no further than that. Then I reject life, this world, its creator, and everything else. And I refuse to incarnate ever again, if there is such a thing. I flat out refuse to play this game for something's entertainment. I will fight against it with everything I have.

We all have those "what's the point" moments, the point is its what you do or how you interpret things and take things to heart that makes you feel "what's the point"

I have no idea what you have been through but I can assure you others have dealt with far more and don't feel that way. This shows your feeling is not caused by the world around you but by how you react to it. If you search out doom and gloom, it's there. Search for love, it's there, it's all right here for us. Heaven and hell and everything in between.



Chin up

reply to post by Wifibrains


How can these Mayans know whats going to happen in 2012. They do not know why they left their own cities. Its guess work...

reply to post by MrUncreated


You'll fight against it with everything you have?

I am not going to sell you the usuall life is what you make it and look for love and you'll find it. Forget that and everything else. I know its not right and that it is, when one looks at it realistically, a cruel world for most. So be it. You have to look within. Are w like flies to the wanton gods? Maybe, I don't know. If we are then don't let them swat you or swat anyone.

Calm down and find a dignified passion and follow it. Travel. You could go somewhere and do something like teach English. Find a new road.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle

 

btw Mayan, like all indigenous tribes of the Americas kept most of their beliefs in vocal form and are not maintained by written form. they are handed down from person to person and do not rely on any records being kept or saved, those are for the ignorant whites that come along.

Any evidence for this claim? Probably not.

In general, people with written languages record things in writing. People without writing record things orally. Mesoamerican cultures had writing.

Labeling whites as ignorant is a racist comment, not the first you've made.

in general i could care less about a trolls comments, but please carry on, if stroking your ego becomes you. white's were in fact ignorant of native way's and many still are today, unless of course you would like to teach us all of your indigenous cultural wisdom?

reply to post by LittleBlackEagle

in general i could care less about a trolls comments, but please carry on, if stroking your ego becomes you. white's were in fact ignorant of native way's and many still are today, unless of course you would like to teach us all of your indigenous cultural wisdom?

Once again you've managed to avoid addressing any of the issues I discussed. A tactic used by those who are wrong.

Labeling any group of people as ignorant is a racist comment. Pretending that racial heritage provides any knowledge at all is also a racist comment.

Culture is learned. If culture is not passed on to others it is lost. The means by which information is passed along can be in many forms. Just being of a certain descent does not provide access to that information.

Indeed, I agree as it follows common sense. Due to Spanaish imposition (and genocide) Mayan knowledge was lost. What little was left was deplorably little. It took scholars many years to reach a stage when they could study Mayan sites with confidence. All the natives retained were folk tales and cultural traditions which need not resembly the literate priestly classes before the Spanish conquest. Being Mayan does not mean they "know" anything anymore than I being of European descent know how hunting started in Europe 300,000 years ago.

reply to post by stereologist


you state obviously that subjective reference is limited. Agreed!

Based on limited subjective material an Objective Conclusion cannot be made unless abstract information is your subjective influence on conclusion.

Again this equals in as much words as Malarkey and Pure Crap. Don't you agree?

With Speculation? All bets are off on the subject. In this case why the argument of any side?

How were all priests killed off if any population lived through the "Spanish Conquest"?

USING YOUR LOGIC, which is all I see in your posting history, The German Leader of the Socialist Nationalist Party didn't kill all the Rabbi's of the Jewish Faith.
Neither did the Conquistador's kill all the Mayan Priests.

Now, see what I mean?....No argument has any legs by which to stand.
Unless of course you wish to post in every 2012 Thread and say Nay. Now that sir isn't ambition of any regard at all.

~ Nuff Said ~

reply to post by racer451

How were all priests killed off if any population lived through the "Spanish Conquest"?

Some questions simply make no sense. This is a good example of a question that makes no sense.

USING YOUR LOGIC, which is all I see in your posting history, The German Leader of the Socialist Nationalist Party didn't kill all the Rabbi's of the Jewish Faith.
Neither did the Conquistador's kill all the Mayan Priests.

Another failed question.

I have not claimed that all priests were killed. The problem is that you and no one else equated killing off the priesthood to killing all people.

That makes no sense at all. That is a mistaken inference.

It is possible to kill off the majority of the elite, the rulers, the leaders, and that has happened many times in history. The conquistadors were not trying to destroy the local population. They were removing the leadership. They were replacing the existing culture with their own.

It is my understanding that the Nazis were not attempting to eliminate the leadership and subjugating the population. They were attempting to eliminate the population - very, very different.

Let's face it you were completely and utterly wrong to suggest that elimination of the leadership and culture meant killing off the population.

Regardless of this, the fact is that there is very little information left from those times due to the actions of the invaders. What is left has been worked out by archaeologists over a long time. It has been a demanding job.

There are plenty of people using their heritage to sucker people into sending them money. I say bully to those con artists. Go for it and empty the wallets of the foolish.

reply to post by stereologist


Sterologist, I must say I find your postings rather arrogant, and with a certain air about them that you are trying to tell people exactly how things are, and to follow the written word from mainstream science and archeology.

It's not for some, but you are like a bible basher on a bus. Give over and let people think, and stop trying to make everyone conform to the "documented" evidence. Much is left out if it does not fit, many peoples trying to find their own awnsers away from manipulation of mainstream science and archeology.

Sorry, thought It needed to be said, it's my thread

I watched this yesterday. made me think about a few things. He was a little off about somethings, spiritually speaking.

As far as the Dec 21st stuff. We can only wait and see.

He wasn't very specific about the exact time, but based on the information he did give, I calculated that the 8 mins would take place on Dec. 22nd at 10pm CT.

So looking forward to it.

reply to post by Wifibrains

I find your postings rather arrogant, and with a certain air about them that you are trying to tell people exactly how things are, and to follow the written word from mainstream science and archeology.

The issue might very well be a well backed argument for a whimsical one.

it's my thread

Wrong. This is an open forum.

Do you have anything to say in regards to the thread?

Do you believe that a person's heritage makes their message more valid? You titled the thread in a manner suggesting that this was a Mayan explanation. You think this person in some way represents modern or ancient Mayan thoughts?

What the ancient Maya had to say about 2012 is clear. There are 2 references. Only 1 of those is a long count date. The rest of the 2012 hoax is a modern invention from North America that was taken down to Central America. The 2012 claims from Central America are simply those concocted by people from the US.

I didn't say I was my forum and you are entitled to post anywhere you wish.
The name of the thread was a shorter version for the video title, and no heratage would not guarantee knowledge. how do you "know" the Mayans do not know? How do you know all knowledge was lost? How do you know? Or is it what you have been shown to believe? Because what you believe makes it truth, to you. There is no real proof that anything is the truth so it comes down to trust. Do you trust 100% that the early invaders managed to kill all priests ect and kill of all knowledge? Or could they have cut corners but written the whole thing out to make it seem like a Proper job?

1% doubt should be enough for you to have a open mind.

reply to post by Wifibrains

I didn't say I was my forum and you are entitled to post anywhere you wish.
The name of the thread was a shorter version for the video title, and no heratage would not guarantee knowledge. how do you "know" the Mayans do not know? How do you know all knowledge was lost? How do you know? Or is it what you have been shown to believe? Because what you believe makes it truth, to you. There is no real proof that anything is the truth so it comes down to trust. Do you trust 100% that the early invaders managed to kill all priests ect and kill of all knowledge? Or could they have cut corners but written the whole thing out to make it seem like a Proper job?

1% doubt should be enough for you to have a open mind.

1. This is not your thread. This is an open forum.
2. If the current Mayans knew ancient Mayan information then it would have been easy to decode the ancient Mayan writing.
3. I did not state that all knowledge was lost

The issue is not me. The issue is the con artist in the video. People discussed other posters when they have nothing to say.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by Wifibrains

 

I didn't say I was my forum and you are entitled to post anywhere you wish.
The name of the thread was a shorter version for the video title, and no heratage would not guarantee knowledge. how do you "know" the Mayans do not know? How do you know all knowledge was lost? How do you know? Or is it what you have been shown to believe? Because what you believe makes it truth, to you. There is no real proof that anything is the truth so it comes down to trust. Do you trust 100% that the early invaders managed to kill all priests ect and kill of all knowledge? Or could they have cut corners but written the whole thing out to make it seem like a Proper job?

1% doubt should be enough for you to have a open mind.

1. This is not your thread. This is an open forum.
2. If the current Mayans knew ancient Mayan information then it would have been easy to decode the ancient Mayan writing.
3. I did not state that all knowledge was lost

The issue is not me. The issue is the con artist in the video. People discussed other posters when they have nothing to say.

I made this thread so can call it mine, it's a open forum I never said it wasn't or you are not welcome.

Is it not astronomy with ties to conciousness? Advanced astrotheology? If not well it times pretty good.

Did you not say the Mayans know next to nothing and to ask an archeologist? If that was not you, then apologies.

The con artist in the video is offering another perspective. What did you think about what he was saying about CERN and lightbulbs? And the short bathe in galactic energy?

reply to post by Wifibrains


Of course the Conquistadors didn't kill all of the priests. They needed them to help convert the Maya to Christianity. It is a fact that two of the three most important remaining Mayan manuscripts come from after the arrival of the Spanish. It is also a fact that Christian missionaries helped write these manuscripts. This was a common practice of Christian missionaries as a means to convert the native population to Christianity. A more well known example of this is the alteration of Nordic myths. It is also a fact that these manuscripts form the basis of modern Mayan belief. When it comes down to it it is undoubtable to modern Mayan beliefs do not reflect those from the Classic period. This fact is further illustrated by the fact that the modern Maya cannot translate anything from the Classic period.

did he get into how men were once made of amber and mud ?

next month will be an interesting oor sure

we shouldn't listen to them about even one single thing

not one