posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 08:32 PM
reply to post by MrWendal
When you have a petition with 50,000 + signatures, such as Texas does, a handful of comments from Facebook does not represent a majority.
Yes, well neither does the percentage of sentiment that 100,000 petition signatures against the entire population of Texas represents. That's just
simple math. Then subtract the number of those signatures that are made by people who aren't really from Texas and you start to get a clearer
I went through some of the petitions signature by signature and a disproportionate number were by people not living in the states the petitions were
for. So one would have to be skeptical that these represent the "will" of the people in any state. Not saying that it couldn't be an accomplishment
in and of itself that 675,000 (last count) individual signatures were obtained in total across all petitions, but remove the duplicates and divide by
50 states and this is hardly a majority uprising.
As far as a Temper Tantrum- your wrong. States have seceded from the Union before. One of those States was South Carolina in the 1800's which
was one step of many that eventually lead to the Civil War.
I find your "temper tantrum" remark to be very foolish. Although I agree these petitions will more than likely not result in secession from the
Union, it is further evidence of something else in the air - Revolution.
Yes, states have seceded from the Union before. But never in this modern age. Revolution only looks more possible because we have the internet and
people can scream their opinions from the comfort of their well-heated homes while they nosh on cheetos. It only appears that there is a huge
uprising. Americans are not taking to the streets (unless you count the Occupy Movement). It's a lot different when you have to get out of your
chair, and go out into the world, and realize the people you interact with at the gas station or the supermarket or the library aren't foaming at the
mouth about revolution. There isn't sufficient sentiment for that. The US is functioning sufficiently well that people can protest from their desk
chair. That's not enough to bring a revolution.
Fact is, people are fed up with the Federal Government. They all have reasons for being fed up. They range from the silly "Obama is the Anti
Christ" all the way to valid reasons such as the NDAA, the stripping of personal liberties, taxes and arresting people for collecting rainwater! No
matter what the reasons are, it is all an additional sign of disobedience which will have to, sooner or later, result in something that is long overdo
in this Country.
I would agree with this in part. But I think people are misguided in blaming the "government." It's the corporations we should be railing against,
and the money culture we live in. The government facilitates institutionalized greed that treats basic human morals as secondary to profit. So yes, I
have a problem with a lot of what our government does, but it has nothing to do with things like the "fiscal cliff" everyone keeps talking about. I
range from expecting the fiscal cliff to be a non-event like every other catastrophe prediction to not caring if it happens because as a wise man once
said "when you got nothin' you got nothin' to lose."
"Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves." ~ Henry David Thoreau
I would agree. Just be clear about what you are disobeying, and what values propel that action. And be always ready to face the consequences.
(PS There are quiet revolutionaries too. Those who protest against the system and live a good life. Without anyone knowing what they are doing...)