Freemasonrys hidden "Baal-sex-worship" and its relation to ritual abuse

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posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by subjectzero
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 

I should clarify that I don't hate Masons. I hate the games they play.


And you don't think it's you who's playing games demanding answers be served-up a la carte and then getting annoyed when it doesn't happen? That qualifies as a game (a childish one but a game nonetheless) in my book


Originally posted by subjectzero
Reference the research, why are you so resistant to teaching the "profane"?


First off, who're you quoting when you use the word profane? It certainly isn't me and I don't recall any Mason here or of my acquaintance ever using that word to describe a non-Mason. As for teaching, I have no problem with it at all. The answers you seek are in the public realm (and have been for nearly three centuries, I might add) so your first lesson from me is for you to research them. This way you'll learn and value your own education as opposed to having your demands served-up on a platter

It's for your own good, really


Originally posted by subjectzero
Your intransigence earns you no friends. It is precisely why you make enemies. You seem to relish it.


I'm sorry you feel that way. However, the enmity of the lazy matters not a whit to me.


Originally posted by subjectzero
Then you "elevate" yourselves by viewing the rest of us as ignorant because we don't behave like rats in your maze.


ORLY? Is that how I view non-Masons? I really hadn't a clue. wow:


Originally posted by subjectzero
I hear you laughing and I know why. It's because, in a way, we still are
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ORLY? Sounds more like you have tinnitus issues because I'm certainly not laughing at you.


Originally posted by subjectzero
How did I know that? I've looked into the Eye and It has looked back.


ORLY?


Fitz




posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 

"ORLY"

Now I know how old you are.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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I always try to reference any outside quote, plus if I was against non-Masons why would I start a blog and post my references in a majority of my articles?



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
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Ritual sex-magic was also a part of Ashtoreth (the queen of heaven) worship, which Jezebel, the wife of Ahab was party to. Using sex to control men, now take a look at the pornography industry, all the sex toys and vibrators and the putting of women upon a pedestal and making them sex objects. Rabbithole goes deep.


Well the porn industry exists because men like sex. That's just how it is. That rabbit hole isn't very deep...


No the porn industry exists because people like to take advantages of men and their wallets.


That's basically what I just said. You are disagreeing with your previous post. Men like sex, which is why they enjoy spending money to watch sex and have sex. It has nothing to do with rituals performed hundreds of years ago. Vibrators have nothing to do with men, they exist so females can have better "alone time" with themselves. The only thing vibrators have to do with men is the fact it's in the form of a phallus. You can use a broom handle or a cucumber and a cell phone and get the same effect. Sex has always been used to control men, for the shear fact that men love sex. That's just it. There isn't any conspiracy there.

Rape, Porn, Prostitution exist because men love to have sex. People see profit in this of course, and they make money off of it. It's a business investment. Men will always love sex, and thus, there will always be porn. Even if there were no women, I'm sure we would see a few DVD's here and there.
I think it's funny how huge the USA porn industry is considering the "moral fabric" supposedly underlying the "great structure" of cesspool culture that has been "measured and built" for us plebes.

Men need to learn to CONTROL THEMSELVES, not others.
Rape is horrific and God condemns it. The only reason rapists were allowed to live was to take care of the victim and offspring in Jewish culture.

USA is DISGUSTING, the infants get slaughtered and the DOGS called men walk free.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 10:44 PM
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My opinion is wrong but yours is not? Must be good to be you.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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To be honest though; that was the same way some of the haters acted towards Masons.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by zonetripper2065

Originally posted by Fitzgibbon

Originally posted by zonetripper2065
I like how the small timers think they are Masons, your the leg work, the pretty helpful faces to give the group a good name. True masons are the super rich, the old families the powerful. If your wasting time on the internet your not a real mason.


Well, I'm glad you have the world pinned per your perceptions. So tell me, how came you to this absolutist world view? As a self-employed Mason, I really want to know whence come your confident assertions

Fitz

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My opinion is wrong but yours is not? Must be good to be you.


From the perspective of a self-employed Mason, I merely asked how it is you came to your opinion which seems to have figured out all the pieces to life's puzzle.

TIA

Fitz



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by eastendkid
 


Ritual sex-magic was also a part of Ashtoreth (the queen of heaven) worship, which Jezebel, the wife of Ahab was party to. Using sex to control men, now take a look at the pornography industry, all the sex toys and vibrators and the putting of women upon a pedestal and making them sex objects. Rabbithole goes deep.


Correct, and Ashtoreth is the goddess Easter.

Fish and eggs are symbols of fertility, and the day of the week called Friday is of german origin and means Freya's Day. Freya is Easter/Ashtoreth in Nordic religions.

Fish on Freya's Day.

The rabbithole does go deep.... mystery Babylon.

God Bless,



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by JB1234
There's another great thread on ATS - All Roads Lead to Babylon

This thread discusses the phalic symbols of Nimrod who became Baal the ancient pagan Sun God his wife/mother Semiramis and their son Tammuz. Although not an account specifically mentioned in the Bible - the characters of Nimrod, Cush & Semiramis and Shem are of course mentioned as close descendants of Noah -

Jospehus apparently also wrote about Shem killing Nimrod because he became a mighty warrior - the Bible calls him as well as being a mighty hunter in opposition to God - as the one who founded calling on God's name (in a defamatory way) and passed into other lands not originally apportioned to him and killed some of Shem's relatives in the process. Shem as a worshipper of the God of Noah - Jehovah - went after Nimrod and killed him. Josephus and other writers state - by cutting him up into 12 pieces.

Semiramis (Nimrod's mother and widow of his father Cush) who married her son and bore a child Tammuz - vowed to avenge her husband's death by a blood ritual to resurrect Nimrod - by putting his pieces together. Apparently the one part she failed to find was his penis or phalic symbol. Thereon unable to re-assemble Nimrod - Semiramis then claimed to all the followers of this God of war that he had risen to the heavens to become the Sun God Baal. Who became a famed Pagan God associated with sexual rites, blood and human sacrifice particularly child sacrifice.

What I didn't realise until I read that thread was that apparently these accounts form the Mystery of Babylon and is actually a central tenet of the occult and Satanism.

Both ancient Sumerian and Egyptian worship included much sexual ritulistic worship within it and interesting to see that the Pole of Baal , mentioned many times in the Bible as something detestable to the God of the Hebrews - Jehovah - is now being associated with modern day sex abuse involving Freemasonary and the elite class in the UK as well as potentially an international ring. Some of these Egyptian sexual rituals are literally only coming to light currently as many more tablets containing Hyroglyphs are being translated currently.

The worship or Cult of Baal also involved child sacrifice - whereby the firstborn Sons and daughters had to be sacrificed to this God by his followers - by burning them alive as infants - In the Bible this practice was specifically condemned by the God of the Israelites as something detestable and forbidden in the Torah an act "not even coming up into the heart of the true God", (which makes the teaching of hellfire by any supposed followers of Jesus odd)

All over the Western world people have been laying wreaths at War Memorials today as a Remembrance of the Dead of War - How ironic that these epitaphs take the shape of obelisks which are basically the Phalic symbol of Nimrod - the God of War and a symbol of a ray of the Sun to the Egyptians. I wonder how many dignatories, clergy etc realise this??!!! Effectively they appear to be bowing down to a Pagan God.

However in Alex Jones case - he would argue that World leaders literally and knowingly do this each year at the feet of a 40ft effigy of the Sumerian God Molech who is of course associated with Baal and Sun worship at Bohemiam Grove.

Fascinating stuff and it is sobering to say the least to see how this thread ties all this in with honouring Nimrod - the original God of War and the heinous sexual abuse of children, which is now being uncovered here in the UK.
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Excellent job JB1234!

Exactly the rabbithole I was referring to.

God Bless,



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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It doesn't take a genius to see that power lies at the top of the triangle and not the bottom. Make sure you tell me how your a self employed mason again in the reply, the third time is truly the charm.



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by zonetripper2065
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 


It doesn't take a genius to see that power lies at the top of the triangle and not the bottom. Make sure you tell me how your a self employed mason again in the reply, the third time is truly the charm.


Perhaps based on your intimate and far-reaching knowledge of the workings of Freemasonry you could be so kind as to share just where you think the separation between "the top of the triangle" and the bottom is and how you came to this conclusion. Please explain whatever linkages you assert and provide linkable proof to backstop your assertions.

As a Master Mason one chair away from being Master of my lodge, I'd appreciate your insight as a non-Mason.

TIA

Fitz



posted on Nov, 17 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Except Freemasonry isn't truly structured like you think it is.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Fitzgibbon

Originally posted by zonetripper2065
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 


It doesn't take a genius to see that power lies at the top of the triangle and not the bottom. Make sure you tell me how your a self employed mason again in the reply, the third time is truly the charm.


Perhaps based on your intimate and far-reaching knowledge of the workings of Freemasonry you could be so kind as to share just where you think the separation between "the top of the triangle" and the bottom is and how you came to this conclusion. Please explain whatever linkages you assert and provide linkable proof to backstop your assertions.

As a Master Mason one chair away from being Master of my lodge, I'd appreciate your insight as a non-Mason.

TIA

Fitz


Just bumping this to the top as zonetripper2065 seems to have overlooked the thread he previously participated in with such gusto. Near two weeks have slipped by and I'd be interested in an answer

Or a retraction....whichever

TIA
Fitz



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Sorry I dont pay much attention sometimes, (and you must live a unusually dry existence). Since this is still a topic to you. Maybe the word triangle wasnt the best choice of words. Ok, your not rich and powerful your not changing the world. Your not from a historic mason family you don't matter to the elites so your a mason in name only. your nothing plain and simple. get over yourself.
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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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Who are you to say such things though? According to what do we need to belong to be "rich and powerful" or from a historic family to be "something" in Freemasonry? What exactly gives your opinion any weight?

What you say goes against some of the first lessons we are taught in Freemasonry.

Who are these elite Masons? What makes them elite?



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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I am sure you won't believe this, but freemasonry is set up in such a way that no one man has ultimate authority over any group. It's done that way intentionally. As we all know the old saying about absolute power and all. It's a perfect democracy. It's set up in a way that there will always be new people in positions of authority each year and the old leaders are there for guidance, yet retain no power other than a single vote. You want to see power, find out who tells Obama what tie to wear.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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OH I need to be somebody to have an opinion? By that same logic who the hell are you to question me? What gives your opinion any weight? Im done posting here for the fact that I keep having to answer the same questions over and over. Even though I stopped posting 2 weeks ago, this is still pertinent to the masons. proving my point you guys are clown shoes.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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. Im talking about powerful people such as presidents,kings, politicians .People who actually matter outside of the club for aging men.
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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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yes, I am sure you are. can you name any that are in power, alive today that happen to be members of the Masonic fraternity?

hint( aside from the obscure senator, or house member, I don't think there are any "key" players)



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by zonetripper2065
reply to post by Fitzgibbon
 


Sorry I dont pay much attention sometimes, (and you must live a unusually dry existence). Since this is still a topic to you. Maybe the word triangle wasnt the best choice of words. Ok, your not rich and powerful your not changing the world. Your not from a historic mason family you don't matter to the elites so your a mason in name only. your nothing plain and simple. get over yourself.


Sorry, but if it eluded you I was trying to get from you why your non-Masonic (apparently uninformed but nonetheless certain) opinion is of import

To quote the original question:

"Perhaps based on your intimate and far-reaching knowledge of the workings of Freemasonry you could be so kind as to share just where you think the separation between "the top of the triangle" and the bottom is and how you came to this conclusion. Please explain whatever linkages you assert and provide linkable proof to backstop your assertions.

As a Master Mason one chair away from being Master of my lodge, I'd appreciate your insight as a non-Mason. "

So tell me, where comes your 'knowledge' about Freemasonry that somehow trumps that of Freemasons? That'd be like me telling the Pope about the inner workings of Catholicism and then remaining silent when questioned

Patiently waiting
Fitz





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