Freemasonrys hidden "Baal-sex-worship" and its relation to ritual abuse

reply to post by zonetripper2065


Masonry doesn't work on a power scheme like that; however I will not be naive and say that their aren't sick elitists that purposely abuse the teachings, but they have no bearing on the group as a whole. Just as the Elite use Masonic and Esoteric symbols because they realize the origin, importance, and power of them; so too do they become members of Secret Societies.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas


Everything is based around power, they can tell you it's not but it is. Like I said masons do many good things. But to the elitists these good men don't even exist. They are a front nothing is sacred man nothing.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas

"If you hate Masons and live in American then I suggest you get the hell out...They gave you this country in the first place."

Frankly, I was stunned by this statement. You want to be a Mason? Seems to me you represent what the Masons are supposed to reject.

You aren't much of an American as far as I'm concerned.

reply to post by subjectzero


It is the truth. The United States Federal Government has overstepped their boundaries of what the Constitution outlined. They are dangerously entering into the territory of tyrannical government and at riskof being overthrown, as provided. All Masons must also take an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States. The Masons gave Americans all of their freedoms and rights; something they fought long and hard for.

I find it disrespectful for people to make unfounded and ludicrous claims about the people who have been on their side forever. They are already prepared as it is now to fight back if the Govenment ever steps the line and really attempts to harm any of you on a grand scale. So yes; just as the cliche is, if you don't like America and the people who gave you this country that you ran into the ground through ignorance, then yes you may leave and seek fortunes elsewhere.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas

Not everyone who fought for America was a Mason. Not everyone in the trenches wore an apron.

Boy, have you got a lot to answer for. The big eye is watching you.

reply to post by subjectzero


That comment is so irrelevant. When I stated that Masons founded this country, I meant more along the lines of the founding fathers.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas

Don't be so narrow-minded. They didn't do it alone.

reply to post by zonetripper2065

Well, I know my position within the Craft.

reply to post by subjectzero


What do you think the purpose of them finding this country was? So we can boast about being free, or run off invading other countries? Do you think that they founded this country just do we can say how great we are? No there was an agenda in place hundreds of years ahead of its time. The Masons founded this country because they were to turn it into the fountainhead of spirituality once it shifts to the west in the coming golden age.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas

What coming "golden age"? Are you talking about this decrepit, corrupt hulk we are left with?

reply to post by subjectzero


The one that succeed's what I would like to call 'The Show'.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas

More Masonic games. You people are beyond pathetic. A bunch of children in costumes playing games.

reply to post by VeritasAequitas

I disagree with the theory that this country was solely founded for a Masonic purpose. One only needs to watch how this country evolved from the early periods of the pilgrims. Were there Masons involved with the revolution? Yes, I'm not saying we weren't, but America was on the road to Revolution before Masonry ever came to America.

Are there Masonic ideals? Sure, but many of our countries founding principles can also be seen as a result of the Enlightenment Age and the coming decline of the monarchy.

Just my opinion.

reply to post by subjectzero

Well' that was just rude and uncalled for.

Oh yeah a thread dedicated to bashing freemasons , I guess some gotta let the anti semetic posts rest a while. Today is hate a mason day, those crafty masonic devils

Seriously though, people have been over analyzing masonry so much it makes me think maybe the freemasons are the good guys. My dad was in the order, no orgys, no sacrificial ceremonies, no baby eating. Just a fraternity of chaps wearing funny hats pretending to be wizards of the scottish rite. Oh yeah dad took me to the lodge a few times as a kid and was not molested even once. If anything a much of middle aged men still living the dream. Kind of like Al Bundy and his NO" MAAM club for men but with ancient symbolism .

Originally posted by mr10k

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by eastendkid

 

Ritual sex-magic was also a part of Ashtoreth (the queen of heaven) worship, which Jezebel, the wife of Ahab was party to. Using sex to control men, now take a look at the pornography industry, all the sex toys and vibrators and the putting of women upon a pedestal and making them sex objects. Rabbithole goes deep.

Well the porn industry exists because men like sex. That's just how it is. That rabbit hole isn't very deep...

Sorry missed what you said, I was eyeballing your avater's b00bs....

reply to post by eastendkid


Freemasonry is founded on principle, patriotism and mutual respect. A truly honorable society in itself. Unfortunately lodges are many and sometimes membership may be small to the point where it becomes a small mens club and they forget about the principles of freemasonry. Under no circumstance should freemasonry be associated with child or sex abuse. There are women's freemasonry lodges as well, they don't worship their female organs...... Come on people wake up. Don't forget that the US Constitution is modeled after masonic law. There are bad apples in every group....

When one joins one group, secret society or another and a member, regardless of rank or assumed authority asks you to do something against your will, the conscience, moral/ethos whether 'drugged', drunk or sober, you still have the right to say No. That is choice/freewill and so are the consequences. What better way to control another than to 'have' something on that other, whether it's an act that was committed, intelligence gathered, lawfully or unlawfully, a 'confession' made to one decked out in fancy garb at one church/temple or another or hundreds of other examples folks have experienced. When someone asks another to do something 'wrong', harmful, unlawful, wicked, etc. they are often compromised themselves and have quite a history, either by their own volition or by another's. They are often a much larger target than you may assume your are, as that sword cuts two ways, one much sharper than the other. They should have reason to fear you as much or More so than you may fear them. Most in politics are compromised.

Many good men join an organization/club/society looking for brotherhood, bondage, family, communion, knowledge, wisdom, respect and so on though many are unaware of who 'controls' those organizations and for what purpose. You get one fella in one group into a highly influencial position and he most likely will be expected to bring his other brothers in as well and the next thing you know, you have a conspiracy backed with brotherhood bonds/oaths that most members have been indoctrinated into 'fearing'. These are long topics involving much history though I believe this needed to be acknowledged for what it could be and Is in society today. The more secret societies/groups/organizations there are, the more divided/compartmenalized they are from one another and more easily controlled/manipulated against one another when/if need be.

I would encourage those to make generic statements about their own experiences past and present without naming any names of persons/societies 'here' as it's not exactly a secure medium of xchange though the search for truth is 'most' often respected when/where found amongst most societies/groups.....less those at the top which often have an alterior agenda at play and most likely not in one's better interest. These folks have much to hide as well and should be obvious why so many stay in powerful positions to ensure their secrets remain so. Just a few things to think about though too much to say/write here.

Personally, I have made an oath/creed on three different occasions and mean to honor them and respect the privacy of others though at no point in time past or present have I acted against my will, harmed another except in defense of myself and country nor taken the order from another against my own will/conscience. At times, it wasn't 'easy' to say no, though I do sleep well and have no regrets as well as a clean conscience which is Golden just as it's Rule. Haven't had any association with folks involved in any sexual 'abuse' whether with children or adults as they should know better.

It seems those that harm others, were often harmed.
Those that hate, have been hated.
Those that have the need to 'control' feel they have none or little.
It's society itself that needs fixing though Love and Understanding heals, when found/dis-covered.

Originally posted by subjectzero
reply to post by network dude

 

You see, that is why people hate Masons. Because you always say we need to get a secret decoder ring to understand your art and your organization.

You play a game with people instead of just being honest and coming right out and explaining "this is what this means."

You intentionally frustrate. That is playing a game.

You had a chance to educate. Instead you spat in our faces.

Sorry someone wasn't prepared to serve up answers on a platter on demand. I suppose I'd be asking too much in suggesting you do your own research yourself?

Fitz

Originally posted by zonetripper2065
I like how the small timers think they are Masons, your the leg work, the pretty helpful faces to give the group a good name. True masons are the super rich, the old families the powerful. If your wasting time on the internet your not a real mason.

Well, I'm glad you have the world pinned per your perceptions. So tell me, how came you to this absolutist world view? As a self-employed Mason, I really want to know whence come your confident assertions

Fitz

reply to post by Fitzgibbon

I should clarify that I don't hate Masons. I hate the games they play.

Reference the research, why are you so resistant to teaching the "profane"?

Your intransigence earns you no friends. It is precisely why you make enemies. You seem to relish it.

Then you "elevate" yourselves by viewing the rest of us as ignorant because we don't behave like rats in your maze.

I hear you laughing and I know why. It's because, in a way, we still are.

How did I know that? I've looked into the Eye and It has looked back.