posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:04 PM
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by Ahabstar
Is it a requirement of moderators to be extremely ignorant?
No more than it is thought to be a requirement by some members to be snarky and uncivil when trying to prove a point. The side-effect is a special
condition of relativity of Godwin's Rule in that if you can't express yourself in a polite manner, your point tends to be dismissed.
I'm sure you're not aware that red states suck away a lot of the tax dollars from the blue states.
I am sure you missed the part where I explained about large cities versus small communities turn states blue for the most part in the ratio of red
counties to blue counties. And that large cities in those states consume the most in welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, etc.
Supporters Subsidize Romney Supporters
Blue States Subsidize Red States Studies show that states that elect Democrats contribute the most in federal taxes relative to what they consume
in government services. Conversely, many states that elect Republicans contribute the least in taxes relative to the services they consume. This is
true even though many Democratic states contain large, poor, urban populations of color.
With the exception of New Mexico and Virginia, 8, count the, EIGHT of the most tax-dependent states are Red states (Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana,
West Virginia, North Dakota, Alabama, South Dakota and Kentucky).
These are also states that have far lower standards of living, lack of large industry, lower populations and the most important factor--large amounts
of farmland. Why is that important? Farm land subsidized by the Department of Agriculture to not grow crops in order to keep food prices artificially
higher. As farming efficiency has produced higher yields over the years, a bumper crop devalues the market value and the farmer risks losing the farm
or deciding to quit farming altogether. You may wish to read up on the Milk Wars for a better understanding.
Please do your research next time.
You will notice that the large portion of the post dealt with the question of secession and the Constitution more than welfare, Red/Blue states and
whether or not a condition to being a moderator of ATS is being ignorant. Which is the topic of topic of the thread as evident by the title "State's
Secession is a Viral Meme. You can't leave!" Some would say that your post was off-topic, others would say it was ill-mannered. As for me, I see it
more as reacting rather than reading.
Also, if the most tax-dependent states wish to secede, they'll lose quite a bit of money.
All depends on what you believe in more, your right to self-determination including the ability to fail to comfortably achieve a goal or that the US
dollar will hold and then gain value in a job market that has bleak forecasts for the immediate future.
Not a very bright move, eh?
Considering that most of the oil refining for the entire country comes from Louisiana, Texas and Oklahoma; the majority of all food and agriculture
comes from the Midwest (mostly all Red States) and a considerable amount of the serving military as well as bases are in the poorest states that you
listed, I would say that dropping the attitude and listening to those people's concerns before you found yourself cold, hungry and defenseless would
be a very bright move. Especially since a good number of those Blue States up on the Northeast have about $50 Billion worth of more immediate problems
to contend with at the moment...namely being cold, hungry and defenseless enough already without having to wonder if the people coming across the
country offering to lend a hand has paid dues to a union or not.