The International Abuse Ring - Investigation Thread

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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Jason88

Here's one high profile case where a producer was busted: "Stuffed toy bunny helps uncover alleged international child-porn network"

Source: www.foxnews.com...

I do believe there has to be a hierarchical system in the abuse, as in the people at the top get there kids from somewhere else - my thinking is social services or foster care - and we never hear about it.
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I was waiting for someone to mention the infamous 'Monster of Riga'. This story is very personal because i used to go to uni in Amsterdam and lived just a couple of doors further of the daycare center where this subhuman raped baby's and toddlers, 80+ children abused, the youngest was only 19 days old.

He videotaped it all so there is evidence and he did go to jail. But he was doing these things on demand also, he and his partner had 2 child porn websites and rich people were paying him for his services. With creditcards mostly but only a few were arrested. One suspicious internet acquaintance killed himself before going to court.

Not even the owner of the daycare center was arrested, who (i consider him a provider) arranged sleepover party's at his private home for this maniac and the children. Somehow he was 'never around' when the abuse took place. That really blows my mind because he seems guilty/responsible to me.

Particularly in this case you can also see the mistakes parents made that will haunt them for the rest of their lives. Who in their right mind lets their 2 year old go to a sleepover party unattended? Who needs a babysitter for a 19 day old baby?
Well, someone did and pedophile Robert Mikelsons took full advantage of that.

Robert was born in Letland in 1983. He seemed like a normal guy.
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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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NOone, not anyone can even imagine in their wildest dreams all the inhumane atrocities perpetrated thru the last century by the arrogant powerful in every branch of society.
Here is a link:
www.youtube.com...
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eclinik.wordpress.com...



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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Hi. Following this thread avidly. Sick to my stomach at what has being going on amongst our so-called elite. I really hope and pray they all get what is coming to them. If not, I swear I will never vote again!
Anyway, I am from the UK, and I am sure that the article you are looking for is this: news.bbc.co.uk...

Hope this helps.
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 02:28 AM
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Wonderful Thread OP and thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I'm writing a paper on the whole pedophilia subject with a focus on Jimmy Savile, saying what parents/executives should have looked for when the rumours started flying, so I hope the links you provide will help with my research.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 05:41 AM
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I completely agree,ATS have blocked a number of Threads I've started on this subject,the threads named names and where completely true backed up by press realises.None of my info involved any of David Ike's insanity which is probably why this yank run site blocked it.I'm begining to think ATS is a patsy,its certainly devoid of any form of satire or understanding of it.
The current enviroment in UK politics is teetering on the edge of the abyss and is profoundly important far more so then bigfoot sightings background hums or whether obama is black or not.I dont think Americans really understand politics or its importance.Do any of you know of a UK site where freedom of speach will allow for a more informed and entertaining gig



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by councilglasses
reply to post by detachedindividual
 
I completely agree,ATS have blocked a number of Threads I've started on this subject,the threads named names and where completely true backed up by press realises.None of my info involved any of David Ike's insanity which is probably why this yank run site blocked it.I'm begining to think ATS is a patsy,its certainly devoid of any form of satire or understanding of it.
The current enviroment in UK politics is teetering on the edge of the abyss and is profoundly important far more so then bigfoot sightings background hums or whether obama is black or not.I dont think Americans really understand politics or its importance.Do any of you know of a UK site where freedom of speach will allow for a more informed and entertaining gig


Freedom of speech is one thing, libel is another. I think the answer to why your threads were removed is in the first sentence you typed. This is just my guess though, who knows maybe it is more sinister, although I doubt it.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by councilglasses
reply to post by detachedindividual
 
I completely agree,ATS have blocked a number of Threads I've started on this subject,the threads named names and where completely true backed up by press realises.None of my info involved any of David Ike's insanity which is probably why this yank run site blocked it.I'm begining to think ATS is a patsy,its certainly devoid of any form of satire or understanding of it.
The current enviroment in UK politics is teetering on the edge of the abyss and is profoundly important far more so then bigfoot sightings background hums or whether obama is black or not.I dont think Americans really understand politics or its importance.Do any of you know of a UK site where freedom of speach will allow for a more informed and entertaining gig


Naming names based on speculation is always going to lead to potential issues and ATS are doing the sensible thing considering the nature of the crime you are saying you are naming names about. If a UK site is openly saying people are child abusers without any fact, evidence, but merely supposition and finger pointing rubbish, then they run the risk of at best getting closed down, all the way through to being sued and possibly convicted.

The internet is becoming more and more a place where people think they can fling mud with no reason to worry about the consequences. Remember this when more restrictions come in place, think back to your comments above and realise that your actions may have helped justify those restrictions.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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After going back and reading that ISGP report, I have to say I find it impossible that all of these events are unconnected to Franklin. Obviously they are different actors on the stage but it reads very similar to the stories of Alisha Owens, Paul Bonnaci, Troy Boner, etc..There is no doubt in my mind that they were probably all 1 large group just broken up into some kind of regional cells or something like that.

Just the simple fact that more people don't know about these cases is proof enough for me to that very important people are involved and protecting themselves and their friends. I don't doubt some people that are not involved have probably helped with the cover up under the guise of protecting Nations governments and Institutions crucial to society. The truth is that we would be better off tearing all of those institutions down, its my opinion that covering up and saving these institutions is more damaging to Human beings than starting over in anarchy. The genius of these crimes is that normal people really do refuse to believe these allegations, I see it happen all the time when I try and talk to people about Franklin. They flat out refuse to believe ANY of it, period. They won't even hear it.

Which brings me to my association with the Omaha FBI. The father of my best friend growing up was in the FBI during the 80's and 90's. He was some kind of public relations or something from what I remember hearing as a teenager. He would tell us things that glamorized his job as kids. It wasn't until I watched the video Conspiracy of Silence that I heard him answer the phone and give a statement on the documentary for the Omaha FBI. I freaked out when i heard it and called my friend right away urging him to ask his father about it. It was probably 6 months later that my friend went home for Christmas and told me after he asked his father, but that he didn't say much. He told him some generic crap about the kids being liars and that my friends father was very good friends with Mickey Mott(sp) who is flat out named as part of the cover up by Troy Boner.

I have to be totally honest every time I type something about this case I get kind of nervous. I know it is probably ridiculously paranoid of me, but at the same time I know it happened, and probably still does. I know many people really died during this time. I know that really important people with lots of money many of who are still alive and in power today were part of this. I have kids man, and this stuff scares me. I think it will die eventually and there will be no one left to wonder that remembers it. Imagine how many times this has played out through history probably, generation after generation of people doing horrible things to people.
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Hi there people. Been following this thread from the outset, and as a Uk dweller, I've been keeping track of this whole thing long before jimmy Saville became the scape goat/sacrificial offering.
There have been some peculiar patterns joining up from around 2009 and if you look hard enough you will find a connection to the jersey care home, Haut de la Garenne (amongst others). One of the connections (and you will have to look hard to find this as i imagine much record has been removed from Internet now,) is the 'suicides'/deaths of 3 policeman within a few days of each other; Chief Constable Michael Todd, Sergeant Neil Munro, and RIchard Fuller who was protection officer for Prince Charles' new wife. This was all around the time the Jersey scandal broke. All came to a strange 'suicided end'. Info somewhere suggests Munro was investigating abuse claims on Jersey. He was found floating in the Solent I believe. As well as that, a high up judge who was a prosecutor in child sex crimes mysteriously was found 'frozen to death' around the same time in 2009
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1134307/Senior-judge-dead-freezing-stream.html
There is more coincidence going on here than a tinfoil hat can deal with. Rumours still abound of elite in Jersey with yachts having kids brought to them for 'parties'. Too many investigators turning up dead.
Good luck with your search. Hope these pieces will add to the bigger puzzle. Find the link. It is NO coincidence.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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My bad. It was Inspector Neil Munro, Chief Constable Michael Todd, and Sergeant Richard Fuller. The deceased judge of 2009 was Judge William Everard

Additional info for the interested and conspiratorial:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-533416/Police-inspectors-body-washed-exclusive-beachfront-jumped-ferry.html

www.zoompad.blogspot.couk/2011/12/suicide.html

www.sunray22b.net/paedophiles_sources.htm

Scorn and trivialise it or not, sorcha faal wrote about it in 2008 as well
www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1079.htm



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by sputniksteve
After going back and reading that ISGP report, I have to say I find it impossible that all of these events are unconnected to Franklin. Obviously they are different actors on the stage but it reads very similar to the stories of Alisha Owens, Paul Bonnaci, Troy Boner, etc..There is no doubt in my mind that they were probably all 1 large group just broken up into some kind of regional cells or something like that.

Just the simple fact that more people don't know about these cases is proof enough for me to that very important people are involved and protecting themselves and their friends. I don't doubt some people that are not involved have probably helped with the cover up under the guise of protecting Nations governments and Institutions crucial to society.


This is pretty much what I believe also. That's one of the reasons I wanted to create this thread, because I believe that there must be some reported links in amongst all the cases that the media has missed.

Like you, I think one of the keys to this can be found in the Franklin scandal, because this directly involved parties on Embassy row, including numerous high up political and business professionals, but those names have never been brought to light. How many politicians from other nations could have been present at such parties?

But the same can be said of other nations too, I think it's unlikely that these things only happened in this way in the US. For instance, we have an actor in the UK who has stated on record that he was abused at parties within the BBC, that drug use was prevalent, that kids were often there as entertainment for some high profile celebrities.

Are we really expected to believe that none of this is connected? I find it highly implausible that all of these cases are separate, especially considering some of the similarities between them, and the time frame in which they all seemed to have been happening.

You know what it reminds me of? Being Human, the vampires and their secret cabal infiltrating all walks of life in order to be able to feed off the people as they wish and under cover. That's really a worrying comparison, but with all the reports I've seen of police doing nothing, or actively covering up evidence, destroying files and so on, and people knowing about it and rescuing those files where they can (which shows that even some involved in the cases didn't trust their own colleagues or the authorities) it suggests that this is a wider ring of organized crime and abuse, an it needs to be uncovered once and for all.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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At the heart of this scandal is the horrific abuse of the most vunerable of children - let's not forget that.

That said, I can't help but think that this attack on the BBC is a smokescreen by the current Conservative administration. The man at the centre of this BBC side issue is, of course, himself a Thatcher-era minister - Chris Patten, and the man with potentially the most to lose (politically speaking) is the current Foreign Secretary - William Hague, who was Welsh Secretary at the time the Bryn Estyn abuse scandal first broke and reponsible for setting-up the Waterhouse inquiry into it, an inquiry that has since received considerable criticism.

Remember also that the BBC was attacked by the then Conservative Party Chairman Norman Tebbit in 1986 for what he saw as its reporter Kate Adie's biased treatment of the US/UK bombing of Libya. It should be noted that that particular row didn't end until the then BBC Director General, Alasdair Milne, was sacked some months later. This all seems rather familiar.



posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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After watching the story of Marc Dutroux and his victims, and the obvious corruption and cover up that took place in that case, I wanted to share these videos on here with you as part of this thread.

I think it is clear to many of us that there is indeed a massive cover up here, and you have to wonder how big it is considering this guy was kidnapping kids from the street, while in other countries they had accomplices in children's homes.

How many children vanished from children's homes around the world, never to be seen again, never investigated, never missing? If you have people running a children's home in this kind of ring (as is believed to be the case in the USA and in Jersey) who is there to make sure a child is not just given to someone? Imagine that for a moment, you have no parents, you've been left in the care of the state, how does anyone know that you exist at all?

That's what terrifies me the most about this I think. In the case of Jersey it was believed children had been murdered, but while they were digging up the floors there were no names of victims, no missing children - no one had any identities to connect to those allegations of murder. That is perhaps the scariest thing about this - if no one knows you exist, no one knows when you go missing.

Here is the case of Marc Dutroux, with a wealth of evidence that he was part of a wider ring - something that he admits. There is clear suggestion of a police cover up at the highest levels, even reaching to government and the justice system.










posted on Nov, 14 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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Dear detachedindividual,

I will watch all of the videos and applaud the fact that you were able to get people to pay attention to these issues.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 01:55 AM
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Dear detachedindividual,

I watched all of the videos, thanks again for posting them. I have two thoughts that occur to me. Firstly, how did this guy manage to own so many homes and not have a job? They did not discuss his source of income. They state that he made pedophile porn, did he sell it and if so was an investigation made into who bought it? I would think that any investigation would included an investigation into his bank accounts, you are supposed to follow the money.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 04:48 AM
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Hi. This is my first post here. Not sure if anyone has already posted this article before from Scallywag magazine re: Lord McAlpine and Derek Laud

scallywagmagazine.blogspot.co.uk...
edit on 15/11/12 by fireflower because: edited typo and and added additional info about article contents



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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I fear the latest twist in this story of the supposed wrongful naming of one politician on twitter may just be the excuse they need to censor social media. Camoron's "gay witch hunt" statement was absurd I thought.

I can't help but think this goes very deep and wide. I believe it was somebody here on ATS who said all judges must be in the "ring" because of the light sentences they give out. Have to agree. Any sane person believes it's up there with the most heinous crimes, yet these perverts are given very lenient sentences.

I hope the victims find the courage to speak out and go on to find some kind of peace.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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Thank you for the thread, after having read this, and being familiar with most of the cases mentioned I just had a thought that might seem a little Ickeish, but bear with me,

The wide spread sexual abuse of children by elites and non elites has a purpose. The damage done to the individual psyche establishes a sense of powerlessness in the child, who then carries this shame forever. The act itself, bringing forth horror and pain in the child feeds the dark force, and allows the authorities to continue abusing.

If it is correct that 1 in 4 are sexually abused to one degree or another, that is a large segment of the population operating at a severe disadvantage, unable to participate in the world with confidence. Some may in turn abuse their own children. Just like the inquisition, wide spread abuse as social control is still operating in the shadows and will continue, unless the will to stop it is found.

I think the elite have always known the power of this kind of abuse, and it is not just about their individual perversions. The scope of the cover-ups and seemingly vast organizational networks lead me to think it is not just sick rich people doing each other favors, but an aspect of the control grid that keeps people fearful, confused and powerless.



posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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I dont always agree with you detached indi how ever on this I am 100% in agreement with your views and thoughts on these crimes. Its about time this whole mess was properly investigated and not by the Police or govt. Thanks for the thread.



posted on Nov, 16 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Cheers for that link


For all the people who have faith in the alternative media: Alex Jones only published this article (as a news item) on Prison Planet after paying him $500.


Interesting

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So very very depressing, seriously
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That link seems like one hell of a good place to start, link those names.
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Yep, I find it strange that people aren't looking in to the links more and seem to be mainly ignoring it
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