Originally posted by Jeremiah65
Whether you support man made Global warming or acknowledge natural climate shift...that does not mean you ignore it and don't prepare for it.
There is a big difference between preparing, and what the AGW camp want to do, which is to sequester large amounts of atmospheric CO2. There is no
proof whatsoever to the claims made by the AGW camp that CO2 causes massive heat... What they have are global computer models which we know are
extremely flawed, and don't take into account factors which do affect the climate, and the weather.
I have been saying it in these forums for years that the climate would get more extreme, but it really has nothing to do with CO2.
The mayority of the scientists who are behind the AGW bandwagon, if they have not been bought off, don't take into account the fact that the Earth,
and the entire Solar System is moving through space, and from time to time our Solar System encounters different regions of space which affect the
climate not only on Earth but on every planet, and even moon with a dense atmosphere. Even the Sun has been reacting to the new region of space that
our Solar System is moving into. We are not fully inside this new interstellar cloud yet, but will be within 100 years. So far we have only
encoutered small parts of this interstellar cloud.
The following information was known to several scientists back in 1978.
Is the solar system entering a nearby interstellar cloud
Vidal-Madjar, A.; Laurent, C.; Bruston, P.; Audouze, J.
AA(CNRS, Laboratoire de Physique Stellaire et Planetaire, Verrieres-le-Buisson, Essonne, France), AB(CNRS, Laboratoire de Physique Stellaire et
Planetaire, Verrieres-le-Buisson, Essonne, France), AC(CNRS, Laboratoire de Physique Stellaire et Planetaire, Verrieres-le-Buisson, Essonne, France),
AD(Meudon Observatoire, Hauts-de-Seine; Paris XI, Universite, Orsay, Essonne, France)
Astrophysical Journal, Part 1, vol. 223, July 15, 1978, p. 589-600. (ApJ Homepage)
Observational arguments in favor of such a cloud are presented, and implications of the presence of a nearby cloud are discussed, including
possible changes in terrestrial climate. It is suggested that the postulated interstellar cloud should encounter the solar system at some
unspecified time in the near future and might have a drastic influence on terrestrial climate in the next 10,000 years.
They knew that when we would encouter this interstellar cloud it would change drastically our terrestrial climate.
It was thought that we would encounter that interstellar cloud up to 50,000 years in the future, but new research states that we will be well within
the cloud within 100 years.
Ribbon at Edge of Our Solar System: Will the Sun Enter a Million-Degree Cloud of Interstellar Gas?
ScienceDaily (May 24, 2010) — Is the Sun going to enter a million-degree galactic cloud of interstellar gas soon?
Scientists from the Space Research Centre of the Polish Academy of Sciences, Los Alamos National Laboratory, Southwest Research Institute, and
Boston University suggest that the ribbon of enhanced emissions of energetic neutral atoms, discovered last year by the NASA Small Explorer satellite
IBEX, could be explained by a geometric effect coming up because of the approach of the Sun to the boundary between the Local Cloud of
interstellar gas and another cloud of a very hot gas called the Local Bubble. If this hypothesis is correct, IBEX is catching matter from a hot
neighboring interstellar cloud, which the Sun might enter in a hundred years.
The Sun traveling through the Galaxy happens to cross at the present time a blob of gas about ten light-years across, with a temperature of
6-7 thousand degrees kelvin. This so-called Local Interstellar Cloud is immersed in a much larger expanse of a million-degree hot gas, named the Local
Bubble. The energetic neutral atoms (ENA) are generated by charge exchange at the interface between the two gaseous media. ENA can be observed
provided the Sun is close enough to the interface. The apparent Ribbon of ENA discovered by the IBEX satellite can be explained by a geometric effect:
one observes many more ENA by looking along a line-of-sight almost tangent to the interface than by looking in the perpendicular direction. (Credit:
Read this from 1996 when they thought it was farther away.
Our solar system may be headed for an encounter with a dense cloud of interstellar matter
Our solar system may be headed for an encounter with a dense cloud of interstellar matter–gas and dust–that could have substantial
implications for our solar systems interplanetary environment, according to University of Chicago astrophysicist Priscilla Frisch. The good
news is that it probably won’t happen for 50,000 years. Frisch presented the results of her research Monday, June 10, at the meeting of the American
Astronomical Society in Madison, Wisc.
Frisch has been investigating the interstellar gas in the local neighborhood of our solar system, which is called the Local Interstellar Medium
(LISM). This interstellar gas is within 100 light years of the Sun. The Sun has a trajectory through space, and for most of the last five million
years, said Frisch, it has been moving through a region of space between the spiral arms of the Milky Way galaxy that is almost devoid of matter. Only
recently, within the last few thousand years, she estimates, the Sun has been traveling through a relatively low-density interstellar cloud.
“This cloud, although low density on average, has a tremendous amount of structure to it,” Frisch said. “And it is not inconsistent with
our data that the Sun may eventually encounter a portion of the cloud that is a million times denser than what we’re in
Frisch believes the interstellar cloud through which we’re traveling is a relatively narrow band of dust and gas that lies in a superbubble shell
expanding outward from an active star-formation region called the Scorpius-Centaurus Association. “When this superbubble expanded around these
stars, it expanded much farther into the region of our galaxy between the spiral arms, where our sun lies, because the density is very low,” Frisch
said. “It didn’t expand very far in the direction parallel to the spiral arms because it ran into very dense molecular clouds.”
However, these clouds are not just one large object as some people might think, they are scattered throughout a large section of space, and we have,
and will continue passing through small sections of this cloud which affect the dynamics of the Solar System including our Sun, and the climate on
Around 2002-2003 NASA, and ESA announced that more interstellar dust was entering the Solar System, and they also stated that we would encounter
denser, and denser clouds which would exponentially increase each year until 2012, when we would enter the densest part of the cloud.
ESA sees stardust storms heading for Solar System
Date Released: Monday, August 18, 2003
Source: Artemis Society
Until ten years ago, most astronomers did not believe stardust could enter our Solar System. Then ESA's Ulysses spaceprobe discovered minute
stardust particles leaking through the Sun's magnetic shield, into the realm of Earth and the other planets. Now, the same spaceprobe has
shown that a flood of dusty particles is heading our way.
What is surprising in this new Ulysses discovery is that the amount of stardust has continued to increase even after the solar activity calmed
down and the magnetic field resumed its ordered shape in 2001.
Scientists believe that this is due to the way in which the polarity changed during solar maximum. Instead of reversing completely, flipping north to
south, the Sun's magnetic poles have only rotated at halfway and are now more or less lying sideways along the Sun's equator. This weaker
configuration of the magnetic shield is letting in two to three times more stardust than at the end of the 1990s. Moreover, this influx could increase
by as much as ten times until the end of the current solar cycle in 2012.
Note the part that says that even after the Sun's activity had calmed down, and returned to normal the amount of stardust was still increasing, this
means we have encoutered sections of this cloud already.
Not only that, but we have known that the amount of stardust was increasing exponentially until about 2012.
But these sections of the new interstellar cloud we have been encountering not only have stardust, but also higher levels of radiation than normal,
which we have also recorded.
Space radiation hits record high
Now, the influx of galactic cosmic rays into our solar system has reached a record high. Measurements by NASA's Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE)
spacecraft indicate that cosmic rays are 19 per cent more abundant than any previous level seen since space flight began a half century ago."The space
era has so far experienced a time of relatively low cosmic ray activity," says Richard Mewaldt of Caltech, who is a member of the ACE team.
"We may now be returning to levels typical of past centuries."
These sections of this new interstellar cloud which our Solar System has been going through is what has been causing the extreme weather, and climate
we have been seeing.
Remember that not only heat records have been broken, but also cold records have been broken all over the world.
This interstellar cloud we are moving into seems to have more than just gases, dust, and energy. It is very possible that there is at least one large
stellar object, such as a brown dwarf which is moving closer to us and this could be the reason for these strange cosmic rays which are coming from
unknown sources inside our Solar System.
It seems that the more information we find about this topic the more it corroborates what I have been writting in these forums since 2004, including
the very real possibility that our Solar System is a binary system which has a dead star, most probably a brown dwarf, and at least one planet orbitig
I have posted dozens of research papers which demonstrate that there is a large unknown source of gravitation, and energy inside our Solar System,
something so powerful that is causing a secular increase in the AU (distance) between the Sun and the planets, including Earth, which cannot be
explained by any of our current theories.
In the following link you will find one of the threads I made about this topic which has a lot more research papers corroborating my argument.
I actually didn't see the following information until a couple of days ago, but it is over a year old.
Strange cosmic ray hotspots stalk southern skies
16:42 03 May 2011 by Anil Ananthaswamy
Cosmic rays crashing into the Earth over the South Pole appear to be coming from particular locations, rather than being distributed uniformly
across the sky. Similar cosmic ray "hotspots" have been seen in the northern skies too, yet we know of no source close
enough to produce this pattern.
"We don't know where they are coming from," says Stefan Westerhoff of the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
Westerhoff and colleagues used the IceCube neutrino observatory at the South Pole to create the most comprehensive map to date of the arrival
direction of cosmic rays in the southern skies. IceCube detects muons produced by neutrinos striking ice, but it also detects muons created by cosmic
rays hitting Earth's atmosphere. These cosmic ray muons can be used to figure out the direction of the original cosmic ray particle.
Between May 2009 and May 2010, IceCube detected 32 billion cosmic-ray muons, with a median energy of about 20 teraelectronvolts (TeV). These
muons revealed, with extremely high statistical significance, a southern sky with some regions of excess cosmic rays
("hotspots") and others with a deficit of cosmic rays ("cold" spots).
Over the past two years, a similar pattern has been seen over the northern skies by the Milagro observatory in Los Alamos, New Mexico, and the
Tibet Air Shower array in Yangbajain. "It is interesting that the pattern can be matched between [these
experiments], at least qualitatively. They have very different techniques and systematic effects," says cosmic-ray physicist Paul Sommers at
Pennsylvania State University in University Park. "I regard those hotspots as a good mystery."
It's a mystery because the hotspots must be produced within about 0.03 light years of Earth. Further out, galactic magnetic
fields should deflect the particles so much that the hotspots would be smeared out across the sky. But no such sources are known to exist.
Secular increase of the astronomical unit and perihelion precessions as tests of the Dvali–Gabadadze–Porrati multi-dimensional braneworld
Lorenzo Iorio JCAP09(2005)006 doi: 10.1088/1475-7516/2005/09/006
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Viale Unità di Italia 68, 70125, Bari, Italy
Abstract. An unexpected secular increase of the astronomical unit, the length scale of the Solar System, has recently been reported by three
different research groups (Krasinsky and Brumberg, Pitjeva, Standish). The latest JPL measurements amount to 7 ± 2 m cy−1. At present,
there are no explanations able to accommodate such an observed phenomenon, either in the realm of classical physics or in the usual
four-dimensional framework of the Einsteinian general relativity. The Dvali–Gabadadze–Porrati braneworld scenario, which is a
multi-dimensional model of gravity aimed at providing an explanation of the observed cosmic acceleration without dark energy, predicts, among other
things, a perihelion secular shift, due to Lue and Starkman, of 5 × 10−4 arcsec cy−1 for all the planets of the Solar System. It yields a
variation of about 6 m cy−1 for the Earth–Sun distance which is compatible with the observed rate of change for the astronomical unit. The
recently measured corrections to the secular motions of the perihelia of the inner planets of the Solar System are in agreement with the predicted
value of the Lue–Starkman effect for Mercury, Mars and, at a slightly worse level, the Earth.
Another discovery he made is the following.
Within the Newtonian framework, we considered the action of a circular massive ring modeling the Edgeworth-Kuiper belt of Trans-Neptunian Objects, but
it does not induce secular variations of e. In principle, a viable candidate would be a putative trans-Plutonian massive object
(PlanetX/Nemesis/Tyche), recently revamped to accommodate certain features of the architecture of the Kuiper belt and of the distribution of the
comets in the Oort cloud, since it would cause a non-vanishing long-term variation of the eccentricity.Actually, the values for its
mass and distance needed to explain the empirically determined increase of the lunar eccentricity would be highly unrealistic and in contrast with the
most recent viable theoretical scenarios for the existence of such a body. For example, a terrestrial-sized body should be located at
just 30 au, while an object with the mass of Jupiter should be at 200 au.
The gravity of this, or these unknown stellar objects is also affecting comets, making them return to the inner Solar System much faster than they are
8.2 Other anomalies?
There is one further observation which status is rather unclear bit which perhaps may fit into the other observations. This is the observation
of the return time of comets: Comets usually come back a few days before they are expected when applying ordinary equations of motion. The
delay usually is assigned to the outgassing of these objects. In fact, the delay is used for an estimate of the strength of this outgassing.
On the other hand, it has been calculated in (44) that the assumption that starting with 20 AU there is an additional acceleration of the
order of the Pioneer anomaly also leads to the effect that comets come back a few days earlier. It is not clear whether this is a serious
indications but a further study of the trajectories of comets certainly is worthwhile.
Anyway, yes, we do need to prepare. Too many people are relying on the governments of the world to "stop Climate Change" when in fact what is causing
the ongoing Climate Change can't be stopped by any human.
If the observations are correct, we might have to start building large cities underground, or find a way to get off Earth if humanity is to survive
the changes that are coming.
If you think that we have had the worse natural disasters you can remember just wait, because it will get a lot worse.
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