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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by diesel_actual
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Thanks, then IF the outside possibility, Dion was a target (as a couple have raised questions) then the 'incoming' might have taken out most of the Longworth house before finishing it's trajectory into the Shirley home. Just a thought.




posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Also, does anyone know of any pictures of the site AFTER the clean up of debris had taken place??? That would be good to see what kind of damage was done to the ground. I think it would give a better clue as to the cause.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by charlyv


Great information.
Is there a limit on the size the meteor would have to be to not burn up in the atmosphere, but be small enough to explode in the air and not leave enough material for a crater, and still cause that amount of damage?

ie, if there's a certain size and density it has to be to survive the atmosphere burn, would that make it certain it would have left a crater and not effectively 'evaporated', or could it conceivably do both - be big enough to survive entry but small enough to obliterate itself completely? And would there be a noise coming down? The video recorded on the street didnt have any 'whoosh' preceding the bang, but it may not have been long enough to tell for sure.

Anyone else, are their any recent daytime cleanup photos so we can see once and for all if there is a crater, as some claim to be able to see?

(edit.. asked already above me)




Originally posted by Trillium
And what about these cover up did you ever see them in the new's NO

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Wow the ads on that rumormill site are gold! So that's what preppers think.
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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I see where you are heading with this...but, don't you think an out of the way car wreck, or dining out poisoning event would have made more sense...just sayin'...

Des



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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Meteors (asteroids) have different make up, ie iron or rock. So different types would need different different sizes/density, also speed and angle come into play.

If the pressure build up of superheated gases is great enough it will explode above the ground (like the Tunguska incident), causing massive devastation, but little to no crater.

I doubt this was a meteor though, seems too precise.
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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Talk about conspiracy....I posted yesterday, first time, about the explosive sound I heard here in Muncie Saturday etc....now tonight in my neighborhood, i hear all these sirens...i go up the road, and 6 fire engines, police cars and i now hear there was a "possible" gas leak....

lol, i was like wowzer....all clear here now



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by diesel_actual
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The deceased, lived in home next to the one that exploded first.

Jennifer and Dion Longworth, School Teacher and A/V engineer



...awww. now that's sad.
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by pshan
Talk about conspiracy....I posted yesterday, first time, about the explosive sound I heard here in Muncie Saturday etc....now tonight in my neighborhood, i hear all these sirens...i go up the road, and 6 fire engines, police cars and i now hear there was a "possible" gas leak....

lol, i was like wowzer....all clear here now
thanks for sharing but if it's "all clear" ... what happened ?
was it a gas leak ? has there been any public announcement as to the incident/cause ?
and, if it is still ongoing, which (county) city F/R frequency can we tune in to ??

if you aren't familiar with Radio Reference, it is a commonly used scanner 'round here. one can listen in to most any F/R relays in the country.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Yeah, well it seems the Sorcha faal story link I saw was not directed to a main stream news site, rather The Toronto Post.

The website is hosted in Mountain View in California. You are right it doesn't appear to be MSN afterall, so may as well cross that one from the former list. I surely did get that wrong.


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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Tallone
I surely did get that wrong.


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Nevermind, I'm sure your general theory still has validity, just not for that/this particular instance.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical

Originally posted by IndyBoom
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Due to the fact the homeowners have been trying to sell the house for a year, they are upside down owe more than its worth, and have 2 morgages. The homeowners left town to go gambling in ohio and even boarded their cat (who boards a cat for the weekend they take care of them selves). Lets say they decided to leave the gas stove on high with a candle lit or some type of igniter. Do you think this would create this big of an explotion? The homeowners trying to get an insuracne claim to get out of the house.


I thought the house was empty of furniture and such. By necessity I would think that would mean other arrangements would be made for the cat. Reports also say the boyfriend and his friend were at the house earlier in the day.

What would happen if you turned the gas on for all appliances without lighting it and letting it build until a timed device set it off? Would there be enough gas to make it blow like this?



Reports also say the boyfriend and his friend were at the house earlier in the day


That's interesting and definately a huge bit of info if true.

Source on that?


I took it from this post on page 83 but never clicked the link. Sorry for the over quoting.


Originally posted by Momof5

Originally posted by Momof5
So, I found this last night and can't help but wonder why it is that no one else has mentioned and/or noticed this. Moncy Shirley (i.e.: R. Monserrate Shirley/Roman) was apparently dating a man named Mark Ray Leonard. A simple google search shows numerous recent arrests. He had been living with her at that house until recently when they moved out as the house was FSBO. However, there are ZERO listings for the home online. Yet, when you see this post about Mark and his buddy Dave Gill, it makes me wonder about the two men seen leaving the house earlier in the day. The fact Dave has been promising the women giving him money that he is getting an insurance settlement in the near future seems to lend further credence to this theory. I will be interested to see if their names appear in the news anytime soon.

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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:10 PM
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Which home exploded first and how exactly did they (whoever it was) determine that? Not saying it wasn't the Shirley house, just curious when it seems a cause hasn't even been officially determined.

Sure, a missle assasination?, no not likely but again anythings possible in this climate (really), maybe it's like the Samurai, when they went to test a new sword they allgedly went out and found a peasant for a subject,hmmm, maybe just a myth though. Just exploring all options, again I think based soley on what the media has been feeding the public, insurance fraud or something closely related, revolving around a furnace and gas, seems the most likely. But again that's just based on media feed. and putting those pieces together. But who knows really how accurate that feed is. Seems I just read a bit ago that a plane crashed into a neighborhood. Likely not related, (probably a thread already here about it too) but the reporting seemd similar and the news timing had the two stories back to back.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by diesel_actual
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Thanks, then IF the outside possibility, Dion was a target (as a couple have raised questions) then the 'incoming' might have taken out most of the Longworth house before finishing it's trajectory into the Shirley home. Just a thought.


Dion was not a target, he was an home audio/video engineer for Indy Audio Labs, everybody pads there resume a lil bit ya know, neways if you were goin to assassinate somebody in suburbs of america you dont just blow up a whole damn neighbor...they get in a "wreck" or "choke" on something, something along those lines



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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what about it? you have proof they didn't get killed? you have proof she/he doesn't have ties to Kremlin? Or did mainstream media tell you 300 didn't get killed? MSM works in every country............



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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the owners of the home that exploded were interviewed tonight by fox59....
IMPD Financial crimes division is investigating them, they recently filed bankruptcy and are upsidedown on the home



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:19 PM
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Look up
Just a quick update.
Bright green aurora is now visible to the north here in Eastern Ontario, Canada. If you are outside.

sorry off topic



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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I too posted for the first time here that I heard an loud boom in Muncie on Saturday. It sounded as if someone had dropped a large dresser in an upstairs room. This was around 10:30 or 11:00 AM.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by diesel_actual

Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by diesel_actual
here ya go







Thanks, then IF the outside possibility, Dion was a target (as a couple have raised questions) then the 'incoming' might have taken out most of the Longworth house before finishing it's trajectory into the Shirley home. Just a thought.


Dion was not a target, he was an home audio/video engineer for Indy Audio Labs, everybody pads there resume a lil bit ya know, neways if you were goin to assassinate somebody in suburbs of america you dont just blow up a whole damn neighbor...they get in a "wreck" or "choke" on something, something along those lines


Sure I don't disagree.(often your plane just drops out of the sky).
Unless (hypothetically only) of course, you wanted to test your targeting capabilities out. Maybe of a new weapon. Or system. Though it caused alot of damage, still there apparently were only the two casualties.

Not saying Dion was a target by any means, just asking. I have no clue what he really did for a living. Just running with the idea of a possible trajectory and any (possible) intent.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by diesel_actual

Originally posted by Tecumte

Thanks, then IF the outside possibility, Dion was a target (as a couple have raised questions) then the 'incoming' might have taken out most of the Longworth house before finishing it's trajectory into the Shirley home. Just a thought.


Dion was not a target, he was an home audio/video engineer for Indy Audio Labs, everybody pads there resume a lil bit ya know, neways if you were goin to assassinate somebody in suburbs of america you dont just blow up a whole damn neighbor...they get in a "wreck" or "choke" on something, something along those lines


Sure I don't disagree.(often your plane just drops out of the sky).
Unless (hypothetically only) of course, you wanted to test your targeting capabilities out. Maybe of a new weapon. Or system. Though it caused alot of damage, still there apparently were only the two casualties.

Not saying Dion was a target by any means, just asking. I have no clue what he really did for a living. Just running with the idea of a possible trajectory and any (possible) intent.

If it it was "a test" then what the victim did for a living is irrelevant me thinks.

I posted the test scenerio further up on page 38 of this thread. But ya know, I am not expecting you to read back that far of course. Since you are thinking along the same lines, it is worth restating my alternative scenerio here one more time. That is my alternative explanation to that of the gas explosion, if the evidence for that does not become any weaker than already is...


[original post by Tallone
 



Let's say it was intentional... if it is government or military linked then why then not do it quietly, and make it seem more like an accident? A car accident for example?

Could be that it is some kind of weapon test or a show of strength. Maybe from afar. Maybe a target was randomly chosen... hence the weirdness of a giant explosion in a quiet suburban neighborhood.

A show of strength by who we don't know, and neither do we know to who such a show of strength was intended for, because clearly they are not saying.


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My favored extrapolation from that goes like this. I am going to number it to clarify the argument I make here.

1. It was a demonstration, from a powerful group.

2. A very powerful group obviously with access to the kind of weapons that if no tell-tale residue (thermite...) is found, could only come out of a black project, and that means very high up access to elements within the military.

3. The group with that kind of power must be a part of the ruling elite

4. That means the demonstration, if that is what it was (and not a test in the first instance), was directed not at us as audience. We would be just the bystanders. The intended audience is a majority ruling group, presumably in America, but not necessarily in America. See point 6 below.

5. The aim is akin to blackmail. Something like concession or change is being demanded.

6. By leveling a section of a suburb on American soil, the demonstration/statement they are making is that much more attention grabbing to the intended audience (whoever the 'they' really is).


We are the periphery audience (like the critters in the wild) not the intended audience. They will not tell us the true story.
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posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 11:10 PM
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I shared this video with a friend of mine who is a weapons specialist for the military, he said WITHOUT a doubt that HIGH velocity explosives could only be responsible for the blast that was heard, possibly ANFO. Judging by the damage and what was left of the homes, I think this very well could be the culprit for the explosion and would explain how the DHS arrived on scene so quickly. The question now is why would there be military grade explosives on the site??
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