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Giant sonic boom felt and heard in Indianapolis Indiana(meteor? mass devastation Info blocade

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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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I too am from Indianapolis and could not believe the amount of devastation! The news showed the damage from helicopters on this evenings news. The gas company representative is saying that there was no gas leak. The DHS is now on the scene. My first though that this was a meth lab gone wrong or a gas leak, but the damage is just too much (it almost blew out an entire neighborhood). I knew there was a small earthquake in Kentucky, but not enough to do the damage here! Today they were showing pics of windows blown out, garage doors blown off, and debris all over the neighborhood. If anyone has any ideas, please post.




posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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I know when I was a kid and our coal furnace went out it smelled like rotten eggs.

But natural gas has no odor, in the states they put an additive in to give it a smell so you can know if they is a leak.

I should just hire my nose out, because I always find it.

Found a leak outside my moms house last year, every time I took the dog out I would get a wiff.

She told me I was crazy, same as my husband. Called the gas co and sure enough, there was a leak in the pipe coming from the street.



Something else to look for is a big area of dead grass or lawn for a undergound leak.
When I was with TransCanada Pipline would fly over the line with a helicopter and look for dead vegetation.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by Nyiah

Originally posted by ToadInAHole
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Yeah , then you read what he`s been involved in and suddenly natural gas sounds silly right ? i`m glad i`m not crazy , well , im glad im not the only crazy one here

I'm sorry, I don't see what's got you so revved up. Care to outline exactly what is fishy about his work history there?

And I'm still wondering if the vacant house might have been a clandestine cooking lab. If the cooker never came or went, and things were snuck in during the overnight hours, it's entirely possible no one knew they were there at all. It's still possible that someone blew the place to smithereens making meth.
See as a ATS lover, I have had a ton of time to think about this and every thing I could possibly think of about what happened there ran thru my mind...from gas explosion to aliens. I said to my gf, what if someone was trying to take someone out and blew up their house. Its possible. Then the guy posted the guys profile and even though it didnt ring serious bells with me, he is still and electrical engineer. He just might have been into something where someone wanted him taking out. I'm sure his profile wouldnt say Secret Weapons Engineer or anything along those lines. Point is we dont know anything about anyone and lord only knows who this guy was if anything besides a innocent man who was killed is a accidental explosion.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by lspilot6946

Originally posted by Xterrain

Originally posted by lspilot6946

Originally posted by ToadInAHole
Ok sorry if this is a little out there or goes over your heads but here goes :

www.linkedin.com...

Dion Longworth (husband)

Anyone else thinking what i`m thinking ?

EDIT : Are the reports true that " The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was called in to help with the investigation " ???? rather odd .... no ?
edit on 11-11-2012 by ToadInAHole because: (no reason given)
If your thinking along the lines that maybe he was into something and someone took him out? I was thinking along those lines before you posted that link about who this guy was.


Umm, he was an AUDIO ENGINEER who developed audio technology. LOL. Yeah, he was definitely into something and a drone surely attacked him. Seriously folks, get off the conspiracy ideology for a moment and read, think, THEN post in ATS.
This is ATS...we are suppose to deny ignorance right? I'm just saying...you have no clue...neither do I, and apparently neither do allot of other people. Thats scenario is just as good as any. Also read is whole profile...he as a smart guy. Im sure you can do some things with audio. He was a electrical engineer and also worked on things with light and plasma...whatever that means.



True...it's interesting that such a smart guy (one of those one-of-a-kind types) was killed and along with his wife (collateral??) My wheels are definitely turning.

However, I don't believe a drone did this damage if it crashed, as there don't seem to be any remnants of any airborne craft large enough to cause this damage. Also, the damage has more percussion, than incendiary evidence.

Now that being said, perhaps he had a garage-project including audio and plasma that went wrong. This happened at 3pm on a Sunday...that's the same time I'm usually tinkering away in my garage on cars and bikes. As an engineer, I'm betting this guy had a pet-project that required a bit more brains than the average guys car tinkering or carpentry.

Who knows...I say everyone keep digging on this guy and see where he might have been a member. Maybe he talked about his projects to friends. If anyone's in the area, maybe see if they can talk to a neighbor. Cops/officials aren't the only people who can go asking folks questions for real answers. ;-)



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Earlier in the thread a quote from the locals stating the location was near an airport makes it even more plausible. I will dig deeper too! I got bashed some earlier mentioning the drone theory but this is a big coincidence. I read last night one of the reasons an officer mentioned he thought it was an airplane was because of how close to an airport it was..and in the article it states how Indiana is the 'perfect place' to test these drones.(because of their runways, etc) So I like your theory. I'll keep digging!
edit on 11-11-2012 by Katharos62191 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Hijinx
This report says two homes destroyed side by side, and damaged others. It says bombs and meth lab have been ruled out.

www.cbsnews.com...

"this is relatively easy stuff. "

CH4 + 2(O2 + 3.76N2) -> CO2 + 2H2O + 7.52N2

That's the reaction for a single unit of Natural gas.



Huh? Why haven't you figured it out yet? Relatively easy and all.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Lol.
Has everyone forgotten how fast at least 13 DHS units and ATF were on the scene?
I haven't heard a peep out of NASA, JPL, USGS.

It's what they don't say and what they don't do that gives me my suspicions.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:46 PM
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Another Drone Article

Indiana is bringing unmanned drones to the state for testing, as a part of a plan to market the state’s defense operations more aggressively throughout the U.S.


Here is another one. WoW...
edit on 11-11-2012 by k21968 because: forgot link



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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why meth? it could be a lot of different drugs. It could've been an MDMA lab.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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Over the years I've seen my share of houses that have exploded from gas leaks. Also occasionally a meth lab or two, but I've never seen anthing close to the destruction in this instance.

I'm thinking this looks military grade.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Texas has drones too.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Good one....I never knew that.




posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Drones, perhaps? go to my two posts above and read the links!



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by lspilot6946

Originally posted by Nyiah

Originally posted by ToadInAHole
reply to post by lspilot6946
 


Yeah , then you read what he`s been involved in and suddenly natural gas sounds silly right ? i`m glad i`m not crazy , well , im glad im not the only crazy one here

I'm sorry, I don't see what's got you so revved up. Care to outline exactly what is fishy about his work history there?

And I'm still wondering if the vacant house might have been a clandestine cooking lab. If the cooker never came or went, and things were snuck in during the overnight hours, it's entirely possible no one knew they were there at all. It's still possible that someone blew the place to smithereens making meth.
See as a ATS lover, I have had a ton of time to think about this and every thing I could possibly think of about what happened there ran thru my mind...from gas explosion to aliens. I said to my gf, what if someone was trying to take someone out and blew up their house. Its possible. Then the guy posted the guys profile and even though it didnt ring serious bells with me, he is still and electrical engineer. He just might have been into something where someone wanted him taking out. I'm sure his profile wouldnt say Secret Weapons Engineer or anything along those lines. Point is we dont know anything about anyone and lord only knows who this guy was if anything besides a innocent man who was killed is a accidental explosion.


I wonder in what capacity he worked with and understood RF. (I think it was listed in his profile)

Also I don't see yet where it has been released where he and his wife were found, was it in their own home next door to the one that exploded?, or was in actually in the reported vaction home owned by the father?



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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I live here in southside Indy, was listening to fire and ems on the scanner last night, defiantly something was little off, officers/fire crews where reculant to say much over the radio and where requesting all commo. be conducted via secure text messaging...Explosion was massive, 3 houses completly gone, 130 Damaged, 30 house un-inhabitable...ATF/DHS investigating..."doomsday prepper" ammo stockpile igniting? Sleeper cell bomb construction gone wrong?
Most likely Natural gas, Looks like the event in cali.

Naturalgaswatch.org reports a wave of natural gas explosions sweeping the nation, some municipalities considering shutting down lines because of poor condition of service lines





posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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I live about one hour north east of Indianapolis. At approximately 10:30 AM I heard what sounded to me like a large dresser falling in an upstairs room, I assumed that it was a sonic boom. I do not make any connection with the sound I heard and the Indy tragedy, I just think that it is strange. I do not recall ever hearing this kind of sound before.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Hijinx
I have to fix a flat on my brothers car. You can look up the equations online, this is what we need.

Optimum fuel air ratio, from there we look at the byproducts of the reaction, as well as the energy released. From this we can calculate the yield in joules. Sorry, I will check back, I've hit a block in my conversions. 17.2kg of air to 1 kg of natural gas, this needs to be converted to volume, then we need to go from 2600 sqft, to volume so on so on. From there we will work out the energy released from combustion of the volume, as it's unlikely the exact mixture for detonation was achieved.


Hijinx - just some quick calculations of volume and weight. According to About.com this is a rule of thumb



An average mass of 1.2kg per m3 at room temperature and standard pressure is often used as a rule of thumb.


That's for air. Natural gas is lighter, but it's only making up a tiny part of the mixture, so I think this is a good enough estimate.

Based on 2600 square feet and about 3 meter ceilings (rounding), volume of the house would have been about 2400 cubic meters. That means there would have been about 2880 kg of the mix, or maybe round to 3000 kg to allow for a vaulted ceiling in the living area or whatever.

That's about 165 of the units of the mix you described (17.2 kg air and 1 kg natural gas). Multiply that by how many joules one of these units would produce and you can determine the maximum energy yield. I don't know how many joules are produced per unit or how many joules it would take to cause that large of an explosion, but it sounds like you know how to calculate that.

That should tell whether or not it is possible it could have just been a gas explosion from one house.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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We had a house explosion here last year from natural gas. It was definitely gas because the owners that did make it out said that they had a gas line problem but ignored it. (dumb to say the least) Anyway, the house was completely leveled but the main material was not blown outward and across the street, it was almost like a controlled demolition. It all ended up in a pile where the house was. It seems strange the magnitude of destruction in those pictures could be attributed to a gas leak, but i also haven't seen everything in this world.

The only other house explosion i can think of was a couple years ago, and it too was not blown outward like this one.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Very similar process.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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especially when they ruled out gas and the first report was of a plane crash. It's easy to get confused and extrapolate. There's so much information nowadays, it's hard to get to the bottom of things. Especially when all of these conspiracy theories make sense.



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