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Originally posted by Hefficide
Originally posted by ajay59
So can I interpret your remarks as: It was only a mere peasant therefore a joke? If this is way off base, please excuse me but the two look very similar to me.edit on 11-11-2012 by ajay59 because: (no reason given)
If this was in response to me saying that the guy is not a politician. It has nothing at all to do with peasantry. What I mean is that he's just a guy - not a spokesperson for a broader base. He's not a community leader. I would suspect that he's probably one of those folks who makes about $250,000.00 per year and is now ready to start a civil war because he might have to give up one of his jet skis or some such.
It's like this. I live in Georgia. If I write a letter to the Chinese government declaring war upon them - I might actually get a few thousand people to agree with me and to sign onto that letter... but the letter carries no weight or authority. I cannot declare war on another nation because I am not "the people". I am a person. My voice matters only insomuch as others voices also do. Only when a majority share the same voice, in our society, do their words take on the power of "We, The People". I'm entitled to my opinion, but I have no right, at all, to impose that opinion upon others.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by happykat39
I doubt it is true however I would be fine with it. Louisiana and Missouri take more federal money than any other state...
Originally posted by happykat39
So far I have come across news of three states that have filed petitions ......
Will any state actually secede?
The states that secede will go broke for lack of government money.
The death of conservatism.
Will any good at all come of this movement?
This is a list of official or otherwise noteworthy proposals for dividing existing US states into multiple states. It does not specifically address statewide or other movements to secede from the United States.
The word secession can refer to political separation at different levels of government organization, from city to state to country; this list focuses on secession from (rather than by) U.S. states, particularly to form new U.S. states.
Article IV of the United States Constitution provides for the creation of new states of the Union, requiring that any such creation be approved by the legislature of the affected state(s), as well as the United States Congress.
Since the adoption of the U.S. Constitution, four states have been created from parts of an existing state: Maine (from Massachusetts), West Virginia (from Virginia), Kentucky (also from Virginia), and Vermont (from New York and New Hampshire)—though New York's claim to Vermont was weak, as it was asked for its consent and Vermont was essentially an independent republic until 1791.
In the case of West Virginia, it formed itself as the legitimate government of Virginia within the Union, then essentially gave itself permission to leave Virginia in order to avoid annexation by the Confederacy. Many other state secession attempts resulted from internal divisions over the formation of the Confederate States of America. While majorities of states may have voted to secede and join the Confederacy, or remain in the Union, even in those years regional and cultural ties prompted portions of the populations of those states to strongly favor the other side.
Since the creation of West Virginia in 1863, no states have been successfully created from parts of already existing states.
Originally posted by TFCJay
Sounds like a little boy running away from home because he don't like mama and papa's rules.
Your blatant disregard for the practice of RESPONSIBLE journalism is what's wrong. The mainstream media are no longer reporting facts, but instead, you SKEW people toward the left by covering up stories, lying, and kissing the feds behinds, probably because you're being paid off. Your news reporting and news reporters like you are part of what is tearing this country apart. You didn't even bother to mention that those signatures have grown to over 8,000 in Texas alone in ONLY 24 hours. Your puppeteers and ilk are racist as hell by treating black Americans as if they are victims. They are not African anything. They are just American, and they have a right to self determination just as much as anyone else! Your type has done nothing but cause division and racism by "hate crime this and that" making blacks look like they have to play a race card to get ahead when in fact, the majority don't want to listen to that garbage anymore and just want to live their lives. Everyone is SICK of it, understand?? You and the federal government needs to lose the corruption and get your arrogant heads out of your asses! I hope all of the states secede and with that, shuts down you and your supporters of IRRESPONSIBLE journalism!!!
Originally posted by howardstearn
In regards to Texas seceding...the U.S. would never allow it. It is too vital to our nation for us to just let them walk away. The U.S. military would be sent in to secure that state and protect federal property. So all this talk is really a waste of time. Fantasy land talk for the teabaggers.